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Post by Spacekiwi   » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:03 am

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Your predictions on whats going to happen over the following week or two? what do you think is going to happen? how much of a bluff is it?
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Post by Daryl   » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:07 am

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I think that it has to be a complete bluff. Even a stupid young born to rule surrounded by yes men has to realize that it would be dumb. Mind you one of the state newspapers recently said that he was so perfect that he didn't defecate.
Spacekiwi wrote:Your predictions on whats going to happen over the following week or two? what do you think is going to happen? how much of a bluff is it?
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Post by KNick   » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:22 am

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He was raised without a clue, so someone had better hit him with a clue stick. That someone has to be China. If China does not shut him down and he heads south, all hell will follow. It is possible we will see the third use of a nuclear weapon for war.
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Post by viciokie   » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:38 pm

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KNick wrote:He was raised without a clue, so someone had better hit him with a clue stick. That someone has to be China. If China does not shut him down and he heads south, all hell will follow. It is possible we will see the third use of a nuclear weapon for war.



I hope he realizes that as soon as he uses a tac nuke he will be blitzed. China in particular will not tolerate him doing something like that and any rockets he sends south will be shot down. Likewise any of his planes that is capable of carrying a tac will be shot down as soon as they cross the border.
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Post by Spacekiwi   » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:28 pm

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My local newspapers made a point that every time something similar had happened, there was an armed incident between the north and south shortly after, for example in 2009.
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Post by 7thsealord   » Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:00 am

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Spacekiwi wrote:Your predictions on whats going to happen over the following week or two? what do you think is going to happen? how much of a bluff is it?


Bluff, definitely.

For quite a while, especially during the Cold War, NK often got its way just by being loud and acting crazy. That simply isn't working any more - China is very arguably the only "friend" left and, from all accounts, even they are just sick'n'tired of NK posturing.

... To say nothing of the increasing NK refugee problem that China has, which would get far far worse if NK totally collapsed (culturally / historically, Chinese and Koreans have never much liked each other).

Whether or not NK actually has (reliable) nukes is questionable. If so, I believe they are a l-o-n-g way from building nuclear warheads for missiles. However, things are bad enough that (IMO) the NK regime could go full Bond-Villain crazy out of sheer desperation. NK has a lot of minisubs, so how about loading a nuke into one of them, and then doing a Kamikaze strike on a SK or US target? I rank something like this as unlikely, but honestly cannot discount it completely.

Possibly the Best Case Scenario would be a Chinese-backed regime change there. NK continues to exist, just with closer ties to Beijing, and starts moving towards the Chinese economic model. Which would be better than what NK has now, whatever else one may think. Probably not happening this week or next week, though.

I don't see Korean reunification happening anytime soon - the financial and social costs would so immense as to make Germany's reunification look like a warm-up act, and certainly SK politicos realize this as well.
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Post by viciokie   » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:37 pm

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7thsealord wrote:
Spacekiwi wrote:Your predictions on whats going to happen over the following week or two? what do you think is going to happen? how much of a bluff is it?


Possibly the Best Case Scenario would be a Chinese-backed regime change there. NK continues to exist, just with closer ties to Beijing, and starts moving towards the Chinese economic model. Which would be better than what NK has now, whatever else one may think. Probably not happening this week or next week, though.

I don't see Korean reunification happening anytime soon - the financial and social costs would so immense as to make Germany's reunification look like a warm-up act, and certainly SK politicos realize this as well.


As far as the regime change that wont happen until china sends its wet department attitude adjusters in and take some attitudes out and change a few mindsets.

Reunification, seriously i doubt if ever until the cult type leadership is long gone.
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Post by thinkstoomuch   » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:06 pm

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Figured to see more posts based on this story.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21979127

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North Korea has said it is entering a "state of war" with South Korea in the latest escalation of rhetoric against its neighbour and the US.
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I don't have an opinion (strange state for me) other than there doesn't seem to be a good solution to any of it. Not even sure how to quantify the less than good outcomes.

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Post by Spacekiwi   » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:48 pm

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thinkstoomuch wrote:Figured to see more posts based on this story.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21979127

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North Korea has said it is entering a "state of war" with South Korea in the latest escalation of rhetoric against its neighbour and the US.
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I don't have an opinion (strange state for me) other than there doesn't seem to be a good solution to any of it. Not even sure how to quantify the less than good outcomes.

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The local papers noted that apparently they have done this once or twice before, with the declaration of hositilites being resumed. it did note that they started fighting again after each time, however they werent full on conflicts as much as one to two small battles followed by negotiations. grain of salt needed as to the following conclusion drawn by the journo that they were only doing it for concessions though. they have a new leader, better nuke tech, new military heads, and a worse blockade on them since last time. we shall see in the coming weeks......
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Post by Tenshinai   » Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:59 pm

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KNick wrote:He was raised without a clue, so someone had better hit him with a clue stick. That someone has to be China. If China does not shut him down and he heads south, all hell will follow. It is possible we will see the third use of a nuclear weapon for war.

Went to school in Switzerland, so unlikely he´s completely clueless.
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