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Re: Iphone tracking
Post by pokermind   » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:33 am

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munroburton wrote:
mark wrote:
Don't be too optimistic about limiting the amount of data.
The real issue is that all they need is a unique handle. With that it is possible (given a high enough density of detectors, of course, in time and/or location) to track you well enough to get a rough location for your home, work and any other regular activity. These days it's quite doable to cross-link that with other public information (think facebook, linked-in, any publicly accessible register) and you're pretty much identified.


Yup. What do you think the big switchover to IPv6 was about?

Number of addresses
IPv4(xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx): 4,294,967,296
IPv6(xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx): 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456

IPv6 has enough addresses to give one to each atom on Earth and hence any amount of individual devices the human race is going to produce. Your smartphone is only the start - we're going to see cookers, fridges, heating systems, etc. get their own address, ostensibly so your smartphone can connect to them remotely and give instructions. Most people think it's a good idea being able to check your fridge stock before leaving work, so you can shop on the way home. Or turn the oven on, so it's preheated and ready to cook the minute you step through the door.

However, it also gives any government the opportunity to monitor everything constantly. Forget waiting 10 years for census results - just look up real-time numbers. Great if you can trust your government not to be exploitative or allow corporations to be.


Hmm IPv6 with six groups of 3 numbers gives 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 address or 666 the mark of the beast, Maybe ol' John's Revelation the last book of the New Testament ain't so crazy after all?

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Re: Iphone tracking
Post by namelessfly   » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:16 pm

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Cell towers can not only detect cell phone pings, the clock allows them to detect the time delay to establish range and general direction. Two towers can triangulate to establish location within a few meters.

Police routinely use cell tower ping logs to track a suspect's movements, sometimes in real time during police chases.

I don't have an issue with the above scenario.

I don't have issue with getting a warrant to allow historic tracking a suspect after a crime has been committed. Imagine being able to find an abduction victim by tracking the movements of the abductor?

However; this technology can be abused. Of particular concern is police refusing to obtain or disclose cell tower ping logs that exonerate a subject. Example is the Trayvon Martin shooting.
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Re: Iphone tracking
Post by biochem   » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:47 pm

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However, it also gives any government the opportunity to monitor everything constantly. Forget waiting 10 years for census results - just look up real-time numbers. Great if you can trust your government not to be exploitative or allow corporations to be.


And of course no politician would ever dream of hiring an individual to run the IRS who would even thing about using the massive investigatory powers of the IRS against political opponents. Right??????
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