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Re: What's next for the Honorverse
Post by Fox2!   » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:14 pm

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kzt wrote:
BillT52 wrote:When the incident at Balcescu Station indicates people (non-slaves) with lethal keepers traveling on slave ships and transferring to other ships (as if to prevent someone from tracking them), checking other stations for similar travelers could eventually lead to at least some indication as to where the final destination is.

Everyone died. There are no witnesses. There really wasn't time for an explanation before they machine gunned the survivors in the lifeboats.


The station managers and "restricted area" staff survived, mostly. They should be amenable to interrogation. No tree cats handy, though.
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Re: What's next for the Honorverse
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:42 pm

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kzt wrote:
BillT52 wrote:When the incident at Balcescu Station indicates people (non-slaves) with lethal keepers traveling on slave ships and transferring to other ships (as if to prevent someone from tracking them), checking other stations for similar travelers could eventually lead to at least some indication as to where the final destination is.

Everyone died. There are no witnesses. There really wasn't time for an explanation before they machine gunned the survivors in the lifeboats.

And the people who survived (on the space station) had no idea about the lethal companions. There was some suspicion about the amount of traffic by some of the controllers on the station, but having been told to mind their own business, they are probably jut going to keep their heads down, and not volunteer anything.
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Re: What's next for the Honorverse
Post by ldwechsler   » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:38 am

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fallsfromtrees wrote:
BillT52 wrote:When the incident at Balcescu Station indicates people (non-slaves) with lethal keepers traveling on slave ships and transferring to other ships (as if to prevent someone from tracking them), checking other stations for similar travelers could eventually lead to at least some indication as to where the final destination is.

Everyone died. There are no witnesses. There really wasn't time for an explanation before they machine gunned the survivors in the lifeboats.

And the people who survived (on the space station) had no idea about the lethal companions. There was some suspicion about the amount of traffic by some of the controllers on the station, but having been told to mind their own business, they are probably jut going to keep their heads down, and not volunteer anything.[/quote]

Cats could be brought it. And things will be learned. But I doubt there will be enough information because it is dubious that MAlign would trust the people there not to talk.

Easier to keep them in the dark. And remember that there are only a couple of extra people on board. Chances are they won't even be noticed.
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Re: What's next for the Honorverse
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:40 am

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ldwechsler wrote:
BillT52 wrote:When the incident at Balcescu Station indicates people (non-slaves) with lethal keepers traveling on slave ships and transferring to other ships (as if to prevent someone from tracking them), checking other stations for similar travelers could eventually lead to at least some indication as to where the final destination is.

Everyone died. There are no witnesses. There really wasn't time for an explanation before they machine gunned the survivors in the lifeboats.
fallsfromtrees wrote:And the people who survived (on the space station) had no idea about the lethal companions. There was some suspicion about the amount of traffic by some of the controllers on the station, but having been told to mind their own business, they are probably jut going to keep their heads down, and not volunteer anything.


Cats could be brought it. And things will be learned. But I doubt there will be enough information because it is dubious that MAlign would trust the people there not to talk.

Easier to keep them in the dark. And remember that there are only a couple of extra people on board. Chances are they won't even be noticed.[/quote]
I doubt there were any Malign people on board the station. And if none of the controllers mention the extra traffic, there is no reason for bringing in cats for the questioning - the supply of cats is limited, and unless there is a compelling reason, will not be used for routine questioning off in the boondocks. The Torchese (and I agree with Berry that that is a stupid name) basically ruined the best chance to find out what was going on when they destroyed the lifeboats.
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Re: What's next for the Honorverse
Post by ldwechsler   » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:17 am

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fallsfromtrees wrote:
ldwechsler wrote:When the incident at Balcescu Station indicates people (non-slaves) with lethal keepers traveling on slave ships and transferring to other ships (as if to prevent someone from tracking them), checking other stations for similar travelers could eventually lead to at least some indication as to where the final destination is.

Everyone died. There are no witnesses. There really wasn't time for an explanation before they machine gunned the survivors in the lifeboats.
fallsfromtrees wrote:And the people who survived (on the space station) had no idea about the lethal companions. There was some suspicion about the amount of traffic by some of the controllers on the station, but having been told to mind their own business, they are probably jut going to keep their heads down, and not volunteer anything.


Cats could be brought it. And things will be learned. But I doubt there will be enough information because it is dubious that MAlign would trust the people there not to talk.

Easier to keep them in the dark. And remember that there are only a couple of extra people on board. Chances are they won't even be noticed.[/quote]
I doubt there were any Malign people on board the station. And if none of the controllers mention the extra traffic, there is no reason for bringing in cats for the questioning - the supply of cats is limited, and unless there is a compelling reason, will not be used for routine questioning off in the boondocks. The Torchese (and I agree with Berry that that is a stupid name) basically ruined the best chance to find out what was going on when they destroyed the lifeboats.[/quote]

[quote] But the Torchese had no idea of exactly what was going on there. And as far as they knew, the lifeboats were filled with by their definition murderous pirates.

Note also that we don't even know how much almost any of the crew knew about the destination.
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Re: What's next for the Honorverse
Post by kzt   » Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:39 pm

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ldwechsler wrote:But the Torchese had no idea of exactly what was going on there.

And they never will.
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Re: What's next for the Honorverse
Post by ncwolf   » Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:24 pm

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It’s not just the slave ships at that station (and their headings, which probably are misleading), but there are the traffic records of Mesa. Consider the passenger liner which was blown up; it had made a trip to Darius before. The ship returned to Mesa, so that gives you a round trip time. If you know the speed of the liner, you know how far away it’s destination lies.

Now, the problem is our heroes have heard of streak drive, but they don’t know it’s parameters well, not like conventional ships. However, Damien H. can give them an idea of the speed of a streak drive equipped courier boat. That will give the good guys—-Henke and Zilwicke especially—-an idea where to look. I think Darius is fairly close. Close enough that astronomical observation from Mesa might could find out that there is a planet there.
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Re: What's next for the Honorverse
Post by Fox2!   » Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:49 pm

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cthia wrote: the Andermani finally decides to spread its wings and threaten the Haven sector with that awful German language.


Duetsche ist gut. Bäyerische, nicht sehr gut.
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Re: What's next for the Honorverse
Post by George J. Smith   » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:55 pm

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Fox2! wrote:
cthia wrote: the Andermani finally decides to spread its wings and threaten the Haven sector with that awful German language.


Duetsche ist gut. Bäyerische, nicht sehr gut.



und Schwyzertüütsch, Unmöglich :lol:
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Re: What's next for the Honorverse
Post by tlb   » Sun Dec 23, 2018 5:30 pm

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ncwolf wrote:It’s not just the slave ships at that station (and their headings, which probably are misleading), but there are the traffic records of Mesa. Consider the passenger liner which was blown up; it had made a trip to Darius before. The ship returned to Mesa, so that gives you a round trip time. If you know the speed of the liner, you know how far away it’s destination lies.

Now, the problem is our heroes have heard of streak drive, but they don’t know it’s parameters well, not like conventional ships. However, Damien H. can give them an idea of the speed of a streak drive equipped courier boat. That will give the good guys—-Henke and Zilwicke especially—-an idea where to look. I think Darius is fairly close. Close enough that astronomical observation from Mesa might could find out that there is a planet there.

Isn't there at least one secret wormhole transit (note the route of the cargo to Beowulf) on the way to Darius. When we first heard of Darius there were some very optimistic people in the forum who thought an optical search could turn something up. I believe that is highly unlikely.
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