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Re: Retirement Age in the Honorverse
Post by cthia   » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:25 am

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If prolong existed in the here and now, there would be many screaming Americans claiming that a prison sentence of life without parole is way too cruel. I say it'd finally begin to be just enough time to really think about and come to grips with what they've done.

IOW, retiring someone to prison for the remainder of their 300+ years at, say, 25 would be totally inhumane. :roll:

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Re: Retirement Age in the Honorverse
Post by Vince   » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:28 pm

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cthia wrote:If prolong existed in the here and now, there would be many screaming Americans claiming that a prison sentence of life without parole is way too cruel. I say it'd finally begin to be just enough time to really think about and come to grips with what they've done.

IOW, retiring someone to prison for the remainder of their 300+ years at, say, 25 would be totally inhumane. :roll:

It would also be very expensive.
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Re: Retirement Age in the Honorverse
Post by cthia   » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:41 pm

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Vince wrote:
cthia wrote:If prolong existed in the here and now, there would be many screaming Americans claiming that a prison sentence of life without parole is way too cruel. I say it'd finally begin to be just enough time to really think about and come to grips with what they've done.

IOW, retiring someone to prison for the remainder of their 300+ years at, say, 25 would be totally inhumane. :roll:

It would also be very expensive.

Depends on what system of measurement one uses. I always thought the SI system is steeped in humanity and is much more personal - foot, feet yards, etc. Which allows the conclusion that life is much more valuable, priceless and costly than currency.

Isn't that the essence of the communiqué Harrington always sent back to the Admiralty for expending so many missiles? The scales tip way too unevenly with the alternative.

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Re: Retirement Age in the Honorverse
Post by cthia   » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:24 pm

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Poor sex slaves, 250 to 300 years looking up at the ceiling gives them a poor appreciation of the galaxy. They'll need a career change, a vacation and a uterus.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: Retirement Age in the Honorverse
Post by Theemile   » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:37 pm

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cthia wrote:Poor sex slaves, 250 to 300 years looking up at the ceiling gives them a poor appreciation of the galaxy. They'll need a career change, a vacation and a uterus.


Slaves usually were not given prolong and the genetics were usually not cleaned up - most died extremely early of genetic illnesses - if they survived that long.
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Re: Retirement Age in the Honorverse
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:23 pm

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cthia wrote:Poor sex slaves, 250 to 300 years looking up at the ceiling gives them a poor appreciation of the galaxy. They'll need a career change, a vacation and a uterus.



How much for a 55 gallon drum of KY jelly?
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Re: Retirement Age in the Honorverse
Post by cthia   » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:36 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:
cthia wrote:Poor sex slaves, 250 to 300 years looking up at the ceiling gives them a poor appreciation of the galaxy. They'll need a career change, a vacation and a uterus.



How much for a 55 gallon drum of KY jelly?

LOL

I like your slant on things. It's a vantage point that comes from being a fly on the wall. I don't think the Mesans wanted to worry about that, or rather, from textev, iinm, they bypassed the need for artificial lubricant by stepping up the natural lubricant by several orders of magnitude. IOW, the sex slaves are wetter than a city hit head on by a category 5 hurricane moving like molasses in the winter time.

You don't want your product returned because its DoD . . .

Dead on Delivery or Dry on Delivery is the same to perverts.

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Re: Retirement Age in the Honorverse
Post by cthia   » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:52 pm

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Theemile wrote:
cthia wrote:Poor sex slaves, 250 to 300 years looking up at the ceiling gives them a poor appreciation of the galaxy. They'll need a career change, a vacation and a uterus.


Slaves usually were not given prolong and the genetics were usually not cleaned up - most died extremely early of genetic illnesses - if they survived that long.

Now I remember that detail, after your post Theemile. Thanks for the reminder.

It makes me go hmm though. I can see a filthy rich perverted Solarian coming across a drop dead gorgeous sex slave or ordering a drop dead gorgeous sex slave whose machinery is kink free, who he can give prolong to and keep her looking like he's robbing the cradle for years.

Wouldn't you want to keep your Bo Derek or your Anna Kournikova or your Emily Ratajkowski looking like she's still too young to be on the cover of Teen Magazine for decades if you were a pervert?

No, I'm personally NOT a pervert - I'm a prevert.

Prevert - perverted before perversion was perverted.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: Retirement Age in the Honorverse
Post by saber964   » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:29 pm

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cthia wrote:If prolong existed in the here and now, there would be many screaming Americans claiming that a prison sentence of life without parole is way too cruel. I say it'd finally begin to be just enough time to really think about and come to grips with what they've done.

IOW, retiring someone to prison for the remainder of their 300+ years at, say, 25 would be totally inhumane. :roll:



Any crime serious enough to get a life plus forever or life without parole sentence is probably serious enough to get the death penalty and in the Honorverse it seems like there no pussyfooting around with endless appeals. It your sentenced to death and within a few days or at most a few months you are facing execution. In the RMN you get caught slaving or piracy it's out the airlock within hours of conviction.
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Re: Retirement Age in the Honorverse
Post by PeterZ   » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:41 pm

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saber964 wrote:
cthia wrote:If prolong existed in the here and now, there would be many screaming Americans claiming that a prison sentence of life without parole is way too cruel. I say it'd finally begin to be just enough time to really think about and come to grips with what they've done.

IOW, retiring someone to prison for the remainder of their 300+ years at, say, 25 would be totally inhumane. :roll:



Any crime serious enough to get a life plus forever or life without parole sentence is probably serious enough to get the death penalty and in the Honorverse it seems like there no pussyfooting around with endless appeals. It your sentenced to death and within a few days or at most a few months you are facing execution. In the RMN you get caught slaving or piracy it's out the airlock within hours of conviction.

The best solution is to re-introduce the equivalent of hard labor. Sentence to be executed on a bare bones colony world with a need for bodies ping work.
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