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by MrZero » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:35 am | |
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It wasn't disappointing, it just didn't give the closure it promised. Or the events it said it was leading up to. It was an events clearance on a rolling ship during a rubgy match. I think we can all agree that there was a lot of prep for things that were cancelled. Granted, I don't mind that Kynt wasn't killed by a bursting shell, but we were robbed when it came to the Harchong Mighty Host. No city-sized kung-fu 2-army streetfight with Rainbow Waters landing a blow on Merlin. :shrug:
And if the ending was going to just happen like that, for all we know, they could have gotten 'him' just by pulling the fire alarm. (not that I advocate it, but it's OK once under wartime powers acts) |
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by Annachie » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:29 am | |
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Nah, I thought it was pretty good.
Stylistically, it wrapped up a bit quick, kinda like CSI, or its ilk, does. But that's my only real complaint. I'd like to see more of where Merlin and Nynian end up. And some of the other original characters. But really the story had progressed past them anyway. Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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by Peter2 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:03 am | |
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I wasn't disappointed at all; I enjoyed the book from start to finish.
In particular, what Merlin and Nimue did to Clyntahn was far more painful than any physical punishment could have been. They showed him beyond doubt that his core beliefs were a total sham, and then executed him in the depths of his despair, before there was any time for recovery. Punishment doesn't get worse than that. . |
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by johnb » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:51 am | |
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I thought it was very good. There were things that I thought could have been done a bit differently. BUT I am not the author!!! It's the tale that RFC wanted to tell and how he wanted to tell it.
I for one am delighted with it. It wraps the first part up well and gets us (well me at least) wanting the next sections. |
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by n7axw » Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:07 am | |
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I guess that it comes down to expectations. I certainly wasn't disappointed with the story as a whole. Webers best so far in this series... I think.
Much of what some were expecting to be resolved in this book has simply been deferred to the next story arc such as the great reveal and the return of the archangels. I was a bit disappointed that the COGA and the inquisition were left intact and and didn't find the reasoning for doing so very convincing. But that being said, it does set up the conflict theme for the next book. In terms of offering us stuff to chew on and speculate about, this book is a gold mine. So let's enjoy. Don - When any group seeks political power in God's name, both religion and politics are instantly corrupted.
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by Dilandu » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:35 am | |
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Yeah, for some pretty strange reasons heavy mortars seems to be abscent on Safehold (otherwise things might became quite bad for Charisian ironclads, with their paper-thin decks which were penetrated by ROCKETS) ------------------------------
Oh well, if shortening the front is what the Germans crave, Let's shorten it to very end - the length of Fuhrer's grave. (Red Army lyrics from 1945) |
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by C. O. Thompson » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:25 pm | |
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khameirsith, I think it was way better that Clynthan was stopped from cutting his own throat and made to go through incarceration and trial... more fitting end for him and better for Merlin who is getting tired of the blood on his hands. I would have liked to see at least a few pages discussing what is under the temple... logically, Merlin and the inner circle have taken time to look around... maybe disconnect a few wires so the orbital platform is off line and download files or find the way to tie Owl into the system and back away. I suspect the vineyard where they caught Clynthan is under new ownership with the Sisters of St Kodhy or Helm Cleaver moving in. I got the impression that the room below and the tunnel out were closely guarded secrets and that few, if any surviving inquisitors know about it factoring in the actions of Helm Cleaver on the day of the uprising in Zion but it seems obvious that the inner circle has to get control of the system. Just my 2 ₡ worth
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by phillies » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:39 pm | |
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Not I. I thought it was excellent.
There were several points where you had to remember things from prior books or matters seemed obscure. Nynian's large pectoral scepter comes immediately to mind. The jump to discovering that Nynian snores and implications thereof was a bit rapid; one presumes that there was some prior off-page activity going back over several weeks. |
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by ti3x » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:49 pm | |
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That entire battle scene made me almost put the book down and walk away. Heck, throughout the series the Charisians are taking causalities which they could have realistically avoided by using snarks to create "luck" on the battlefield. A matter of god (or Owl) helping those who help themselves. But even without that, Sarmouth doesn't bother suggesting ways that he might hide barges to the spotter, such as below a mound of dirt, and please keep an eye out for stuff like that. He knew those rocket barges were there, but instead of just saying that he would rather avoid getting too close to the island, he decides to let the attack carry on. It's a decision that Weber seems to have made to keep the Charisian's from curbstomping Thirsk, and it just feels unnatural. But then, much of this book feels that way, which is a feeling that has been growing throughout the series. Also, hands up if you skipped entire paragraphs when it came to talking about where which army was marching, or might march, or would march, except for, or did march, but then marched back from... |
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by n7axw » Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:08 pm | |
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I for my own part intend to go back and study those battles. I'm already started on the sea battles.... Sorry you are apparentky not enjoying the series. Don - When any group seeks political power in God's name, both religion and politics are instantly corrupted.
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