Daryl wrote:I know that I'm wasting my keyboard time here, as I've asked this question before and not received a direct reply.
Accepting for a moment your proposal that a supreme being exists, then how are you all so sure that it is male, singular/trilogy, and best described by your christian mythology?
Could it be asexual and/or multiple or something else altogether? To my mind it seems extremely provincial to say that out of all the possible beings on quadrillions of solar systems their creator appears to be best depicted as a WASP alpha male human.
Suits me I suppose, as I am a large bearded senior human male who does tend to be bossy, so a good example to emulate.
"The absence of proof means that His existence is possible. In that circumstance the universe is God's creation and the fundamental laws are a product of God's mind."
God is a Spiritual Being. Our image of male/female does not apply. Male/female was created by God to enable procreation and companionship. God doesn't need a counterpart to procreate. Non-corporeal beings do not have body parts. There can only be one God, HE has no desire to create more Gods. Or needs.
I know that God is a Trinity because His Word tells us so. Believers have no reason to dispute validity of the Trinity. Nothing about the Bible does - or can - physics disprove. Indeed, our very own physics
support the possibility of
all contained within the Bible.
I have discussed this before with others. It hinges on the arrogance of man.
Why is it that sex matters? Okay
do let us assume for a minute, as you say, that God exists. If God does exist, do you think it would matter what the plumbing is? If Manticorans can rise above the plumbing of excellence, how much moreso should we? Do you think that God is merely biology? Do you think that God is merely physics? Another fine example of man getting too big for his britches.
Why should God be bound by the laws of physics, biology or any of man's disciplines? God created the engine of the universe. Do you think that that would bind him to the "laws of combustion" of a V8? If
you were to build a V8, would you be bound by it? Absolutely not, you can turn the thing off. Choose not to enter it. The V8 would be a closed system. And if you too had infinite knowledge to design it correctly and also had access to an infinite power source, and you didn't get your parts from Taiwan then what reason would you need to interfere with it? And if you did interact with your car, people would not know that you did, if it runs by remote. Yes, someone can isolate the wireless signal. But God's signal may be "thought." He may interact with the Universe through thought. Which requires no more effort as our "breathing." Even less. We cannot isolate our own thought. Nor can we
measure human thought. We can connect electrodes and measure electrical impulses, sure. And perhaps that would work on God as well, if we can travel to his realm and connect the electrodes. And if our wiring's resistance can withstand the surge. And if we can remove the resistance of our own disbelief. God isn't a physical system, He is not bound by particles. HIS energy source is of a metaphysical nature and our interaction must be metaphysical (tuned) to observe. And it works as such and so has it been given by God's textev.
E = MC^2.
This beautiful and powerful equation reveals to us that a small amount of mass yields an incredible amount of energy.
Does textev in the Bible support this? Let's see...
1. You only need to have the faith of a mustard seed. And Your faith will move mountains. (Perhaps whoever built the pyramids and moved the monstrously huge stones did it by faith, lol.) We sure didn't do it by crane.
2. And what of the unshakable
faith that a certain woman must have wielded for that faith to have acted as a conductor and channel energy from God. She was ill and it was difficult for her to navigate through the crowds. Yet she had
enormous and unshakable faith that suggested to her that all she needed to do was to touch the hem of his garment.
As Jesus was on his way, the crowds almost crushed him. 43 And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years,[a] but no one could heal her. 44 She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped.
45 “Who touched me?” Jesus asked.
When they all denied it, Peter said, “Master, the people are crowding and pressing against you.”
46 But Jesus said, “Someone touched me; I know that power has gone out from me.”
47 Then the woman, seeing that she could not go unnoticed, came trembling and fell at his feet. In the presence of all the people, she told why she had touched him and how she had been instantly healed. 48 Then he said to her, “Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace.”
Does faith have mass? It seems so. And substituting faith into E = MC^2 can move mountains.
Lest we of little faith.Matthew 17:20
He replied, "Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."
If God was in Heaven and simultaneously on Earth as a man then he needed to be in two places at once. Quantum physics supports that reality too.
Indeed, if
simply a man had written the Bible then he would have had to have access to a complete and updated
future physics reference right beside him
and understand it. How can anyone not see?
My problem with some scientists is their failure to bracket their disbelief and investigate a 'what if' scenario regarding the possible truth of a Deity. That's the scientific approach, isn't it? If there is a Deity, then what would be possible? In what direction might that lead our Sciences? What things might be true? It is what I call 'the application of physics to the idea of a Deity.'
There are so many little equations such as faith substitued for mass in E = MC^2 that just work. I have had many counter arguments saying that that is just coincidence. That that is just religion making the data fit. Opportunistic 'scientific religious' meanderings. Yet, it is overlooked that the pieces not only
do fit, but so easily and so readily do they fit. Whoever wrote the Bible was a genius. The physics required can easily be shown from our own physics - bereft of any handwavium.
No matter how much in awe we still are of God's creation after billions of years -- at least, if we
could get a lot closer, and a little closer, and still a lot more... at the very heart of it we'd find that He simply used different colored pieces. To God they are just lego pieces. Yet wouldn't they seem to be much more... to a child such as man? The Universe and the laws that govern it did not exist before God created it, yet God existed. By inference, of course God isn't bound by his creation. Your parents brought you into this world. They can take you out. No matter how smarter than they that you think you are.
One of the most humorous and thought provoking conversations I find in the Bible shows man's arrogance via ignorance. It is the most quintessential example of how ignorance can be bliss.
It is Moses asking God...
Exodus 3:13-15
13 Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?”
14 God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’”
Here is an infinite being, the Creator of all there is, was and will be and also the Creator of this man standing before him, when this man asks him who HE is? How was God to answer?...
Now, I pray that this doesn't even
border on blasphemy. But I
can't imagine God's amusement.
"For crying out loud (no, that would destroy the Earth by flood) this man asks "ME" who 'I AM.' How can I amuse him? I'll have to teach him, well, all of the Sciences that binds and bounds him -- the physics, the mathematics, the philosphy, the biology, the quantum mechanics... And he hasn't even discovered X Y and Z yet, and won't for another 10,000 more H-years ... ... Then I'll have to teach him how all of it really works. Then I'll have to teach him all about the philosophy of the why of creation. Then I'll have to teach him the book that he still hasn't grasped, although it has been here on Earth for millennia and I've sent my SON to explain it in person. All as prerequisite material for the Trinity...
Listen Moses. Just tell them "I AM." "
Ignorance is not only bliss, it is inherently so.
I am sorry but it is most hillarious to me. And devoutly profound. What else could an all powerful Being say to answer Moses? Because if ever there was a time that "The truth, You can't handle the truth" was appropos, it was surely then.
And man dares to think he has now learned enough to question God's existence, after enjoying such a short time breathing -- compared to the breath of Creation? How arrogant. Just because man can crunch numbers, he believes that his numbers discredit the Being that created the numbers? - As tools so that the being could make heads or tales of and learn to stand upbreeze of farts in the wind. A being, man, who has among them those that still struggle with multiplication tables, who still forgets to carry the one. And THE ONE. Who
all still cannot use an abacus, who are afraid of a slide rule, who trust a computer that they threaten to hammer to death because he cannot prevent it from talking back to them. A species who still count on its fingers. A species who still doesn't grasp the philosophy of why it cannot divide by zero.
It isn't lost on me, that a Supreme Being answered Moses as best as HE could. "I AM."
I said it once in another thread, I find it quite ironic and arrogant that through artificial intelligence man believes that he will one day be able to create life from sand but that an entity long ago couldn't have beat him to it and created life from dust.
A Being associated with the first three prime numbers. Creation in six days - the first perfect number. On and on. Opportunistic scientific religion? Or just both shoes fitting and the socks too?! Is it God's fault that we haven't yet learned to tie our M-strings.
I have always disbelieved in the possibility of man discovering a Theory of Everything. To do so, the microcosm of scientific particles must be married to the macrocosm of time and space. And God intentionally made it separate.
6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven.
And wouldn't a Theory of Everything have to prove everything? Even God? Would an infinite being reduce to one equation that man can ever know? Wouldn't that powerful knowledge make us God's too? We're failing miserably in our unfortunate knowledge of good and evil.
What would we do with such a unified field theory besides blow our brains out just like our parents warned all little boys that they'd do when they asked for a Red Ryder BB gun.
We're looking for the BBs with Particle Accelerators but we can't find the smoking gun.
Perhaps God doesn't smoke. lol
Science handicaps itself in the search for truth. In this effort, it picks and chooses which disciplines
to eliminate, to exclude -- when
altogether they comprise the sum of man's knowledge -- to utilize as its tools when it is obvious that we need them all and more...
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Materialism is an atheistic philosophy that says that all of reality is reducible to matter and its interactions. It has gained ground because many people think that it’s supported by science. They think that physics has shown the material world to be a closed system of cause and effect, sealed off from the influence of any non-physical realities --- if any there be. Since our minds and thoughts obviously do affect the physical world, it would follow that they are themselves merely physical phenomena. No room for a spiritual soul or free will: for materialists we are just “machines made of meat.”
Quantum mechanics, however, throws a monkey wrench into this simple mechanical view of things. No less a figure than Eugene Wigner, a Nobel Prize winner in physics, claimed that materialism --- at least with regard to the human mind --- is not “logically consistent with present quantum mechanics.” And on the basis of quantum mechanics, Sir Rudolf Peierls, another great 20th-century physicist, said, “the premise that you can describe in terms of physics the whole function of a human being ... including [his] knowledge, and [his] consciousness, is untenable. There is still something missing.”
The Trinity. The number 3 According to Pythagoras and the Pythagorean school, the number 3, which they called triad, is the noblest of all digits, as it is the only number to equal the sum of all the terms below it, and the only number whose sum with those below equals the product of them and itself.[3]
What a nice
coincidence.
Quantum Mechanics is God's calling card. Call-sign Quantum.
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". some have claimed that "that's when the brain finishes development". No, That's when some quack claimed that's when it finishes. the Brain is dynamic and is constantly developing over your life so I guess we should move the age of adult to 80?! the reason peoples brains develop is because it gains experience and incorporates those experiences into it's matrix. The reason most modern "children" take so long to "finish developing" is because they are 