Dilandu wrote:Duckk wrote:It didn't "suddenly appear". Harveyized steel was mentioned as far back as MT&T.
I'm not arguing anymore. But it appeared that the Langhorne truly was Archangel after all: his holy name could do real miracles!
Dilandu, while you have made some very interesting point earlier, that between you and RFC, have shed lights upon some parts of the development of technology on Safehold, I'm sorry to say that now you are just getting silly.
RFC has told us very clearly what was the real technological level of Safehold pre-Merlin, and the reasons why it evolves the way it does...
And yet you keep going back to old earth comparison again and again, when it has been made very clear that this kind of comparison is in fact not as relevant as one could hope, for multiple reasons. I'll try to give back some of them just below, but I'll probably forget some anyway:
- Safehold technology level pre-Merlin can not be seen anywhere in old earth history. Firstly, it is more or less homogeneous (at least, much more than what is still the case here on earth) on the surface of Safehold. Secondly, while on certain point they were closer to 16th-17th century (artillery, naval warfare,...), on other point they were more on a 19th century level (industrial or preindustrial production,...). A system like that will thus NEVER evolve like old earth Evolved;
- the Charisian empire is under the control of people aware that technology is their best chance to win against a more numerous Church, and having the will and the means to implement a strong, coherent and targeted research programm in order to develop the weapons to beat this ennemy. If I remember correctly, no 19th century country on old earth had programms that much structured;
- thanks to their access to OWL, they have Inside knowledge on how such a programm has to be made to be successful. So not only are they building a coherent research programm, but they are also making it in the right way from the start;
- thanks to OWL database again, they have access to numerous technology, the way to develop them and a computer able to run simulations and double check calculus if needed. So, not only are they building their research programms in the most optimal way possible to them, they can also, take shortcut in the actual development of certain number of their research, making it shorter to get something than what it took us here on good old earth;
Whan you take those points into account, it seems clear to me that comparison to old earth rate of development is not the best way to do things, and, while things are indeed going a little bit fast IMO, nothing came "out of nowhere" as you seem to imply.
