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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by kzt   » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:00 pm

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MaxxQ wrote:I actually feel the same way. I was starting to think he might end up being another Theisman or Tourville - an enemy you could respect. OTOH, it kinda falls into the MAlign's plans in a way - the way they set this up, the SLN lost a fairly competent officer, which means more idiots available for "helping" them along.

He was not a nice guy. Otherwise the MA wouldn't be able to order him around.
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by Amaroq   » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:41 pm

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cthia wrote:
There were over four hundred superdreadnoughts on his plot, and if they were even half as capable as Harrington had described, they were more than enough to cut through every active unit of Battle Fleet like a laser through ice cubes.


What?
A Solarian Admiral actually admitting how outclassed they are?
Filareta essentially admitted that every single active ship in Battle Fleet's order of battle was useless junk...much less his present command.

Ouch!

Too bad Filareta had to die, I actually like him. He has a brain.


He was competent but the hints the text gave about some of his more unwholesome tastes left me feeling a little glad that he's gone.
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by akira.taylor   » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:21 pm

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kzt wrote:
MaxxQ wrote:I actually feel the same way. I was starting to think he might end up being another Theisman or Tourville - an enemy you could respect. OTOH, it kinda falls into the MAlign's plans in a way - the way they set this up, the SLN lost a fairly competent officer, which means more idiots available for "helping" them along.

He was not a nice guy. Otherwise the MA wouldn't be able to order him around.


True. As I recall, it was something "sick" with children. It was easy to miss, as I recall (just the one mention), and he is about the most competent SLN officer we've seen.

But really deserved to die, given his habits.
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by MaxxQ   » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:03 am

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Hmmm... I've only read that book once... still working my way through the series again.

I guess I forgot about the more unsavory aspects of Filareta. I was only thinking about how he was going to actually use the brains he was born with.

Okay... disregard what I said earlier.
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by Vince   » Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:11 am

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kzt wrote:
cthia wrote:Although I can't remember if LACs were available during Honor of The Queen.

Yes. They shot the hell out of Fearless.

While the Battle of Blackbird was primarily an energy range shootout at knife range, and Fearless took some damage from Masadan LAC fire, I wouldn't say that they shot the hell out of Fearless.
The Honor of the Queen, Chapter 24 wrote:“They could have been worse, but they’re bad enough, Sir.” Her slurred soprano was grim. “Apollo’s impellers are undamaged, but she has almost two hundred dead and wounded, her port broadside is down to a single laser, and her starboard sidewall is beyond repair out of local resources.”
Matthews winced. He had far more casualties, and his entire navy had been reduced to two cruisers—one of which, Glory, was badly damaged—and eleven LACs, but it was the Manticoran vessels which truly mattered. Everyone in this room knew that.
Fearless got off more lightly,” Harrington went on after a moment. “We’ve lost our long-range gravitics, but our casualties were low, all things considered, and our main armament, radar, and fire control are essentially intact. Troubadour has another twenty dead, and she’s down two tubes and her Number Five Laser. She’s also lost most of her long-range communications, but her sensor suite is undamaged. I’m afraid Apollo is out of it, but between them, Fearless and Troubadour are still combat effective.”
Italics are the author's, boldface is my emphasis.

Apollo was taken out of action by Principality's (Ex PNS Breslau) missile fire during the battle.
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by kzt   » Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:00 am

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I'm talking about when Fearless got ambushed after dropping off the freighters.

Oh, but you are right, they got Troubadour, not Fearless.
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:47 am

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akira.taylor wrote:
True. As I recall, it was something "sick" with children. It was easy to miss, as I recall (just the one mention), and he is about the most competent SLN officer we've seen.

But really deserved to die, given his habits.


That is sick! And he got his just dessert!!
Don't know how I missed that reference.
Although I am still reading ART, no one has fired a shot yet...almost there; I'm stretching it out, although I probably have already missed that nuance.

No excuses, its just that...well...its a small world but a huge universe and it was so nice to actually come across a competent Solly who probably even owns a gerbil.

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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:25 am

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ART, last few pages, Chapter 22.
“You do realize you weren’t exactly truthful with the poor shmuck, Your Grace,” Rafe Cardones pointed out from his com screen, and she cocked an eyebrow at him. “You didn’t fall all over yourself giving him accurate info on our capabilities,” her flag captain expanded, and she shrugged.
“I disagree with your assessment, Rafe. I didn’t tell him we could do a single thing we can’t do, I just…understated the numbers a bit..."

Understated??? What The Front door doing open?!
If those numbers Honor trotted out to Filareta was an understatement :o
Then RFC should send a message to the League to just throw the towel in,
the soap...and the rubber duckey too!

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:57 am

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cthia wrote:ART, last few pages, Chapter 22.
“You do realize you weren’t exactly truthful with the poor shmuck, Your Grace,” Rafe Cardones pointed out from his com screen, and she cocked an eyebrow at him. “You didn’t fall all over yourself giving him accurate info on our capabilities,” her flag captain expanded, and she shrugged.
“I disagree with your assessment, Rafe. I didn’t tell him we could do a single thing we can’t do, I just…understated the numbers a bit..."

Understated??? What The Front door doing open?!
If those numbers Honor trotted out to Filareta was an understatement :o
Then RFC should send a message to the League to just throw the towel in,
the soap...and the rubber duckey too!


Besides,” he snorted dryly, “they might not have believed you if you’d told them how good your tech—our tech—really is! He might’ve decided you were lying and running a bluff after all.”
:lol:
Theisman.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:05 am

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She shook her head. “I’ve never seen a fleet in a worse hole than this one, even in a simulation, and”—she glanced at Theisman for a moment—“that’s saying something, after some of the scrapes we’ve been in.” She shook her head again. “Surrender’s the only option you’ve left him.”
“That was the general idea, Mercedes,” Honor said softly, her eyes on the crimson icons of Eleventh Fleet.

“Engage the enemy,” her soprano voice said evenly. “Fire Plan Thermopylae.”


I dunno why the phrase to hell in a handbasket comes to mind now.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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