ThinksMarkedly wrote:cthia wrote:
That is another reason coordination of fire may be necessary. It is also the reason I stated in another thread that the torpedoes an LD will carry will be much more destructive. Why can't someone else's navy have a Capital ship version of missiles.
Because the torpedoes are already capital ship grade. What's more than capital ship grade?
The torpedoes carried by an LD may be more destructive, but that doesn't change the laws of probability and geometry. They still need to have a firing solution without a wedge is in the way. That's why I said that you can't rely on a 1:1 kill ratio and it needs to be more like 5:1.
Additionally, the torpedoes have never been tested against a powered RMN/GF sidewall and buckler walls. The MAN has no way to test that now, and since it didn't test its torpedoes at Galton, it won't get any data. In fact, the RMN did get some data and may make improvements upon those. This means the MAN can't know how many graser shots it needs to kill a GF capital ship, so it must err on the side of caution.
Theemile wrote:1) The torpedoes used at OB were already oversized and designed for The LDs - the Sharks had to carry them externally for the mission and was limited to 3 torpedoes per ship in special, modified racks. LDs will fire the massive (5-10Ktons) torpedoes from tubes. (btw 5-10 Ktons is the mass of 1-2+ capital missile pods).
2)There is a larger classification of missile than capital - usually called "system defense" or "independant launcher" missiles - these are just too massive to be carried by SDs in bulk, and usually have larger warheads than capital missiles. Traditionally, these were single drive missiles and had extra time on the massive drives to engage targets outside the the target's range, protecting a fixed defensive point. Newer 3,4, and 5 drive defensive missiles are in this same class.
Technically, the Cataphract C in all it's mods would be classed as one of these missiles, as it is too large to fit in a conventional SD's tubes or magazines (and only 6 can fit in a pod).
So it's possible that the LDs could have tubes to fire the Cataphract Cs - but most likely they will just carry pods of them.
This is my take on it, explained. I recall a conversation or two amongst the Detweilers of being very close to certain breakthroughs. They even discussed the size of their torpedoes, iinm. And at Galton we saw one of those breakthroughs in the form of their own version of FTL capability. It was limited, but it was FTL. And they adapted it for their own specific use.
The torpedoes are indeed capital ship grade already. But, it is the first generation as I take it. Rather crude. Now imagine much smaller torpedoes. And when I say capital ship... with
SD grade grasers! Firing for a full 3 seconds!
No? Well, is that skepticism? Or fear? Maybe both? Because, I would like to see how those sidewalls will handle that. No matter where the hell the ship is inside the wedge!
P.S.
More TV baggage. I recall the first Klingon Bird of Prey. She was a bit of an eggshell. But she sure could dish it out. Then she'd disappear.
They say the LD is a bit of an eggshell too. But I am having those nightmares again that she will be able to dish it out too. When she fires on you, you will be too damned busy trying to keep your fusion bottles from blowing to fire back. Then the Black Widow will disappear.