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Re: Tanks on Safehold
Post by WeberFan   » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:47 pm

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Loren Pechtel wrote:Would tanks have a role as raiders?

I would envision something rather different than "tanks" or even armored cars (Praiger-driven of course) as raiders.

In this thread, we keep thinking "bigger and more massive..." Let's turn it down a couple notches and go to the other end of the spectrum in the raider / scouting department: Motorcycles.

We've already seen textev that talks about the possible range for a Praiger-driven vehicle (IIRC 25 gallons of fuel and 25 gallons of water for some preposterous range).

But think of a heavy-duty, motorcycle with maybe 10 gallons of water and fuel? Able to travel perhaps several hundred miles? Perhaps a platoon of scouts mounted on these? able to travel on the high roads as well as offroad (at least in moderately dry conditions with "fat boy" tires (we've seen textev about pneumatic tires being developed for bicycle use).

High torque, perhaps a max of 30 MPH. VERY quiet (little engine noise). Hmmm. The possibilities are endless. Much faster than horse-based scouting, able to go almost everywhere a horse could go. Able to evade almost any opposing forces.
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Re: Tanks on Safehold
Post by mhicks   » Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:57 pm

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WeberFan wrote:
Loren Pechtel wrote:Would tanks have a role as raiders?

I would envision something rather different than "tanks" or even armored cars (Praiger-driven of course) as raiders.

In this thread, we keep thinking "bigger and more massive..." Let's turn it down a couple notches and go to the other end of the spectrum in the raider / scouting department: Motorcycles.

We've already seen textev that talks about the possible range for a Praiger-driven vehicle (IIRC 25 gallons of fuel and 25 gallons of water for some preposterous range).

But think of a heavy-duty, motorcycle with maybe 10 gallons of water and fuel? Able to travel perhaps several hundred miles? Perhaps a platoon of scouts mounted on these? able to travel on the high roads as well as offroad (at least in moderately dry conditions with "fat boy" tires (we've seen textev about pneumatic tires being developed for bicycle use).

High torque, perhaps a max of 30 MPH. VERY quiet (little engine noise). Hmmm. The possibilities are endless. Much faster than horse-based scouting, able to go almost everywhere a horse could go. Able to evade almost any opposing forces.


Jay Leno has a steam car that he showed off one time to a car enthusiast tv program. That car was quiet and fast. In comparison to Horses easier to feed. Run out of coal, switch to what ever you can get your hands on that burns. If you run out of fuel for a few days, not a problem, run out of food and water for a horse it is dead.

Motorcycle easier to transport across the oceans and cleaner too. First biker gang Shanwei's Angles. Merlin gets to wear leather
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Re: Tanks on Safehold
Post by Julia Minor   » Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:30 am

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Shortly after Safehold got the bicycle, there's a comment about them having potential use for military scouting. We don't see any bicycle scouts after that, but the idea's there -- we just need someone to come up with mounting a Praiger on a heavy bike frame.
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Re: Tanks on Safehold
Post by Loren Pechtel   » Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:52 pm

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Julia Minor wrote:Shortly after Safehold got the bicycle, there's a comment about them having potential use for military scouting. We don't see any bicycle scouts after that, but the idea's there -- we just need someone to come up with mounting a Praiger on a heavy bike frame.


If you're going for a wheeled vehicle I would be more inclined towards something like a dune buggy.
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Re: Tanks on Safehold
Post by Silverwall   » Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:06 pm

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Loren Pechtel wrote:
Julia Minor wrote:Shortly after Safehold got the bicycle, there's a comment about them having potential use for military scouting. We don't see any bicycle scouts after that, but the idea's there -- we just need someone to come up with mounting a Praiger on a heavy bike frame.


If you're going for a wheeled vehicle I would be more inclined towards something like a dune buggy.


For terraformed/farmed areas a jeep equivalent is the best scout as it can carry a MG. For wilderness/non terraformed areas I would keep the mk1 horse and rider as the transport option of choice as they handle wilderness much better than machines..
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