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Where did "Mister X" get his money?

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Where did "Mister X" get his money?
Post by Mycall4me   » Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:31 am

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So, Lawrence Jefferson the traitor in Heirs of Empire, did quite a lot of things that would have entailed spending large amounts of money. As a couple of examples, there was the money that he used to bribe the maker of the graviton bomb, the bribe money for the mat trans operator. And the grav bomb maker said (to us readers) that money had been no object. And what about the large amount of money it would take to build and staff the duplicate mat trans? And there are other things that would need to be paid for.

He was a former US senator, and then the Lt Governor of earth. I think that there may have been a mention that he had family money, but I find it hard to believe that that could have financed all of the many things that required untraceable funds to pay for those things.
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Re: Where did "Mister X" get his money?
Post by Louis R   » Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:50 pm

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He was also one of Anu's top degenerates - in fact, probably the most senior to escape detection. He'd have known where a _lot_ of bodies were buried, and how to profit from them. He very likely also had access to, probably direct control over, some portion of Anu's covert funding mechanisms. And finally, it is remarkably easy for people working at that level in any government to create 'black' budgets and sidetrack huge sums, provided said sums amount to fractions of a percent of the total budget they're overseeing. For an entire planet, a G$ is a rounding error.

Mycall4me wrote:So, Lawrence Jefferson the traitor in Heirs of Empire, did quite a lot of things that would have entailed spending large amounts of money. As a couple of examples, there was the money that he used to bribe the maker of the graviton bomb, the bribe money for the mat trans operator. And the grav bomb maker said (to us readers) that money had been no object. And what about the large amount of money it would take to build and staff the duplicate mat trans? And there are other things that would need to be paid for.

He was a former US senator, and then the Lt Governor of earth. I think that there may have been a mention that he had family money, but I find it hard to believe that that could have financed all of the many things that required untraceable funds to pay for those things.
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Re: Where did "Mister X" get his money?
Post by Clooneyblast   » Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:37 pm

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Louis R wrote:He was also one of Anu's top degenerates - in fact, probably the most senior to escape detection. He'd have known where a _lot_ of bodies were buried, and how to profit from them. He very likely also had access to, probably direct control over, some portion of Anu's covert funding mechanisms. And finally, it is remarkably easy for people working at that level in any government to create 'black' budgets and sidetrack huge sums, provided said sums amount to fractions of a percent of the total budget they're overseeing. For an entire planet, a G$ is a rounding error.

Mycall4me wrote:So, Lawrence Jefferson the traitor in Heirs of Empire, did quite a lot of things that would have entailed spending large amounts of money. As a couple of examples, there was the money that he used to bribe the maker of the graviton bomb, the bribe money for the mat trans operator. And the grav bomb maker said (to us readers) that money had been no object. And what about the large amount of money https://casino-rich.com/ it would take to build and staff the duplicate mat trans? And there are other things that would need to be paid for.

He was a former US senator, and then the Lt Governor of earth. I think that there may have been a mention that he had family money, but I find it hard to believe that that could have financed all of the many things that required untraceable funds to pay for those things.


You raise some really interesting points about Lawrence Jefferson's funding in Heirs of Empire. Honestly, it's kind of mind-boggling when you think about the scale of his operations! The idea that an ex-senator could secretly finance such an elaborate scheme is naturally intriguing. Even if he did have family money, it does stretch the imagination to assume it was enough for everything – especially those untraceable accounts for shady dealings. Maybe there’s more to his resource network than it's explicitly detailed? Hidden investments, discreet allies, or perhaps alternative funding sources we weren't fully clued in on might be possibilities. It's a fascinating part of the plot that definitely adds layers to his character and the overall narrative, don’t you think?
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Re: Where did "Mister X" get his money?
Post by Somtaaw   » Fri Nov 29, 2024 10:53 am

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Well the texts also state that Jefferson outright 'reversed the bank transfers' after killing the various people. Lot easier to come up with bribe money, if everybody you bribe you wind up killing AND taking your money back at the same time. you're double/triple-tapping the same money.


He was also a little 'too practiced' at half of the clandestine stuff, so I would imagine that he actually was doing a lot of similar tasks for Anu, and basically already had a slush fund that Anu gave him to work with. That's in addition to the reference the Jefferson's were already 'old money' (when he snuck out the hidden passage to go see the artist with the hologram of what the statue would look like); so he was already fairly wealthy to start. That could have been because his family have been working for Anu for decades, but that's unlikely as we know Anu preferred to corrupt adults already in the right places and didn't really think generationally like Horace did.... so Laurence got into a Senator position and only then did he get approached by an agent of Anu.



He probably invested heavily in various companies, using that family wealth. John Ringo frequently uses the same cover story for his various MC's that they made a classified communication widget for the military prior to 9/11 and the GWoT made that widget so incredibly valuable that they'd sell the communication widget company to the Pentagon for a huge sum, and then they'd live off that nest egg.

In theory Jefferson could have done something similar, he knew what Imperial devices would be highly lucrative after Colin made them all open-patents. So if Lawrence invested in certain companies that quickly exploded from being say $5/share to over $5000/share; the dividends from that would be amazing. And if he'd done that at a dozen or two dozen companies, Jefferson could have been clearing a few million a month just off investments, not counting bank interest, and as I mentioned at the start how he'd 'pay someone' for illegal activity, then reverse the bank charge afterward.
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