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Russian “False-Flag” operations in the Ukraine

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Re: Russian “False-Flag” operations in the Ukraine
Post by Joat42   » Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:35 am

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From Twitter (https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/15 ... 5207989249):
UK Ministry Of Defence wrote:Due to low morale and reluctance to fight, Russian forces have probably started deploying “barrier troops” or “blocking units”.

These units threaten to shoot their own retreating soldiers in order to compel offensives and have been used in previous conflicts by Russian forces.

Recently, Russian generals likely wanted their commanders to use weapons against deserters, including possibly authorising shooting to kill such defaulters after a warning had been given. Generals also likely wanted to maintain defensive positions to the death.

The tactic of shooting deserters likely attests to the low quality, low morale and indiscipline of Russian forces.


Anyone not surprised that this is now happening, raise a hand..

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Re: Russian “False-Flag” operations in the Ukraine
Post by Arol   » Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:52 pm

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On a news-show here tonight there were two small laconic items taken from Russian sources. Taken individually, there’s nothing interesting, but seen together…lol!!! :lol:
In one we were told that Putin had just signed a decree into law permitting the recruiting of convicts into the Russian armed forces. Well no news there, his semi-private semi-state sponsored Waffen SS Group (the Wagner-Group!) has been doing just that for months now!!!
The other was a feel-good-story about how young Russians were flocking to Recruiting Centers to enlist! ;)
Imagine yourself as a normal Russian, with at least two functioning brain cells, and you are presented with these two stories, that describe basically the same story, with two different takes! :roll: :?
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Re: Russian “False-Flag” operations in the Ukraine
Post by Daryl   » Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:43 pm

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I do hope that I'm wrong, but the ultimate false flag action now that Russia has announced a withdrawal from Kherson, would be to leave a strategic nuke hidden in a basement.
"See they didn't hand them all in after all"? Just wait until enough Ukrainians had entered the city.
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Re: Russian “False-Flag” operations in the Ukraine
Post by Arol   » Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:48 pm

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Daryl wrote:I do hope that I'm wrong, but the ultimate false flag action now that Russia has announced a withdrawal from Kherson, would be to leave a strategic nuke hidden in a basement.
"See they didn't hand them all in after all"? Just wait until enough Ukrainians had entered the city.

A hidden nuke, sure! A dirty bomb, or have them blow the dam, it’s all out there! The fora and the media are rife with suspicion, regarding the Russian withdrawal from Kherson.
Hell, even Zelensky has aired the possibility of a Russian trap!
After months of fighting to take Kherson, the Russian decide to call it a day, and head for the other bank of the Dnipro River! It’s enough to make anyone feel there’s something fishy going on. :?
Like Cassandra standing there looking at a wooden horse, thinking there’s something wrong here!!!
The Russians essentially giving the Ukrainian’s a great big gift wrapped present, could be modern version of “Greek’s bearing gifts”!!!
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Re: Russian “False-Flag” operations in the Ukraine
Post by Daryl   » Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:55 am

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I just read an article that sums up how hopeless Russia's situation is. In response to requests from front line female fighters, a private group has started providing them with appropriate sized and tailored camouflage gear. But the kicker is that they have also requested maternity wear as well.
So on one side we have 700k of potential male conscripts leaving Russia rather than serving, and on the other side we have pregnant Ukrainian women volunteering.
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Re: Russian “False-Flag” operations in the Ukraine
Post by n7axw   » Thu Nov 17, 2022 4:12 pm

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Daryl wrote:I just read an article that sums up how hopeless Russia's situation is. In response to requests from front line female fighters, a private group has started providing them with appropriate sized and tailored camouflage gear. But the kicker is that they have also requested maternity wear as well.
So on one side we have 700k of potential male conscripts leaving Russia rather than serving, and on the other side we have pregnant Ukrainian women volunteering.


I read an article a while back about Russian recruiters entering the classrooms of young children with questionaires for teachers to fill out to assess their ability to serve...

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Re: Russian “False-Flag” operations in the Ukraine
Post by Joat42   » Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:36 pm

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n7axw wrote:I read an article a while back about Russian recruiters entering the classrooms of young children with questionaires for teachers to fill out to assess their ability to serve...

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They've resorted to all kind of underhanded shit to get more canon fodder. They've had "recruiters" outside work hostels in Moscow and other larger cities where they forcibly recruit people who aren't residents - that way the cities fulfill their "recruitment-quotas" without upsetting the residents.

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Re: Russian “False-Flag” operations in the Ukraine
Post by Arol   » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:35 am

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n7axw wrote:
Daryl wrote:I just read an article that sums up how hopeless Russia's situation is. In response to requests from front line female fighters, a private group has started providing them with appropriate sized and tailored camouflage gear. But the kicker is that they have also requested maternity wear as well.
So on one side we have 700k of potential male conscripts leaving Russia rather than serving, and on the other side we have pregnant Ukrainian women volunteering.


I read an article a while back about Russian recruiters entering the classrooms of young children with questionaires for teachers to fill out to assess their ability to serve...
Don-


[quote]Russia is planning return of Soviet-style military training in schools with rifle lessons for children as number of troops lost in Ukraine war mounts up[/quote]

The more things change, the more they remain the same! :roll:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ts-up.html
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Re: Russian “False-Flag” operations in the Ukraine
Post by Arol   » Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:42 am

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxR1jmZTLew

A hands-on analysis of the Capture of Kherson!
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Re: Russian “False-Flag” operations in the Ukraine
Post by isaac_newton   » Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:10 pm

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Arol wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxR1jmZTLew

A hands-on analysis of the Capture of Kherson!


Ah Perun - he's produced a number of very cogent logistics based analyses throughout the war. :)

BTW in your previous post you quoted the Daily Mail...
As a general point of principle take everything the DM says with a very large pinch of salt [of course they do publish the occasional true article, but thats problably by mistake]. Not for nothing is it more correctly known as the Daily Bile, or the Daily Heil!!!
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