Trump pardoning war criminals...

Exactly what relevance is that to Gallagher admitting to desecrating a corpse which in just about every other western country, and most others, is a war crime. That, by itself, should be grounds for removal as a SEAL?

The answer is of course none.


What part of the Navy Corpseman's testimony affects Gallagher's posing in a photo with a dead combatant, you know, the charge he was found guilty of? The one that they did use as a basis for kicking Gallagher out of Spec. Ops?

The answer is of course, none.

So smr, is a soldier, especially a Spec. Op's soldier, desecrating or disrespecting a corpse acceptable in your book? Despite the fact that it is an actual war crime. (that the USA didn't sign up to.)

We all know the answer.

smr wrote:... is that people will parrot what someone high up in the change of command believes.

In this case the parrot is clearly you.

smr wrote:Annachie:

What did the Navy Corpsman on the stand admit to? This is the key to the whole Court Martial.

He was charged with premeditated murder of an enemy combatant in custody. That is why the testimony of the Seal Medic is so important.

He would have never been charged for that crime instead he would have been taken off combat operations and probably offered a slot at seal school or asked / forced to retire.

https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-nav ... er-charge/

Nugget from article above:


"This is a case of firsts.”

Parlatore called on Navy leaders, especially at Naval Special Warfare, the Office of the Judge Advocate General and NCIS to learn from the many mistakes made in a case he said never should’ve gone to trial.


quote="Annachie"]Exactly what relevance is that to Gallagher admitting to desecrating a corpse which in just about every other western country, and most others, is a war crime. That, by itself, should be grounds for removal as a SEAL?

The answer is of course none.


What part of the Seal Medic testimony affects Gallagher's posing in a photo with a dead combatant, you know, the charge he was found guilty of? The one that they did use as a basis for kicking Gallagher out of Spec. Ops?

The answer is of course, none.

So smr, is a soldier, especially a Spec. Op's soldier, desecrating or disrespecting a corpse acceptable in your book? Despite the fact that it is an actual war crime. (that the USA didn't sign up to.)

We all know the answer.

smr wrote:... is that people will parrot what someone high up in the change of command believes.

In this case the parrot is clearly you.

smr wrote:Annachie:

What did the Navy Corpsman on the stand admit to? This is the key to the whole Court Martial.

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smr wrote:He was charged with premeditated murder of an enemy combatant in custody. That is why the testimony of the Seal Medic is so important.

He was found not guilty of that charge. That's why your bringing it up is irrelevant.

Legal Charges...stacking the deck. Why was he charged?

Follow the chain of command? Where does this lead to and why?

SecNav...status...removed. Why? Removal of a "bad actor"!

Why was SOP and protocol violated in this case?

Why the pardon? "Bad Actors" being publicly rebuked!

smr wrote:Legal Charges...stacking the deck. Why was he charged?

Follow the chain of command? Where does this lead to and why?

SecNav...status...removed. Why? Removal of a "bad actor"!

Why was SOP and protocol violated in this case?

Why the pardon? "Bad Actors" being publicly rebuked!

Why was he charged? A bunch of people accused him of murder. That's pretty good grounds right there.
There was a photo of him with a dead combatant, which is kind of grounds for a charge of taking a photo with a dead enemy combatant. Do we need to go on.

The mistake here, is that he should have been up on charges well before that incident he was charged for. (Administrative charges, sure)

Are you sure the facts support your allegations? The video shows something entirely different.

Annachie wrote:

smr wrote:Legal Charges...stacking the deck. Why was he charged?

Follow the chain of command? Where does this lead to and why?

SecNav...status...removed. Why? Removal of a "bad actor"!

Why was SOP and protocol violated in this case?

Why the pardon? "Bad Actors" being publicly rebuked!

Why was he charged? A bunch of people accused him of murder. That's pretty good grounds right there.
There was a photo of him with a dead combatant, which is kind of grounds for a charge of taking a photo with a dead enemy combatant. Do we need to go on.

The mistake here, is that he should have been up on charges well before that incident he was charged for. (Administrative charges, sure)

smr wrote:Are you sure the facts support your allegations? The video shows something entirely different.

There's a video that shows that half a dozen or so other SEALS didn't accuse him of murder?

There's a video that shows that a photo, that I wont link to, doesn't exist?

Please enlighten us to this video that shows things that actually exist to not exist.

Yes there was video. A small part of the video ( a video clip) was used to smear his name on the Hill. Please reference the Prosecution misconduct. Did you know malware was installed on the defense attorneys laptops? I can not answer what that malware did but I can only speculate. Their are other serious issues and violations with this case that you might want to investigate.

Annachie wrote:

smr wrote:Are you sure the facts support your allegations? The video shows something entirely different.

There's a video that shows that half a dozen or so other SEALS didn't accuse him of murder?

There's a video that shows that a photo, that I wont link to, doesn't exist?

Please enlighten us to this video that shows things that actually exist to not exist.

smr wrote:Yes there was video. A small part of the video ( a video clip) was used to smear his name on the Hill. Please reference the Prosecution misconduct. Did you know malware was installed on the defense attorneys laptops? I can not answer what that malware did but I can only speculate. Their are other serious issues and violations with this case that you might want to investigate.

Which matters exactly how to him being found guilty of a charge he pretty much had to admit to being guilty of due to evidence, and how that relates to the decision that being guilty of such a charge making him unsuitable to being in Spec. Ops?

Seriously, how? He's guilty. No amount of shit can remove that basic point.
The SEALS wanted him out because of that guilty verdict. Again, nothing you mention changes that basic point.

Trump's pardoning of him was wrong. He crossed the military command for a pointless reason that was purely politics.

There's no miscarriage of justice here because HE WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY of the charges that could possibly have been considered a miscarriage if he was found guilty.

His admissions during the trial show him as unworthy.


Now, had he been found guilty of murder your ramblings might be of some relevance.

Let's hear some more defending Gallagher from the usual suspects here...

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/ne ... gainst-him

SAN DIEGO — A retired Navy SEAL whose war crimes trial made international news has launched a video attack on former SEAL teammates who accused him of murder, shooting civilians and who testified against him at his San Diego court-martial in June.

In a three-minute video posted to his Facebook page and Instagram account Monday, retired Chief Special Operator Edward Gallagher, 40, referred to some members of his former platoon as “cowards” and highlighted names, photos and — for those still on active duty — their duty status and current units, something former SEALs say places those men — and the Navy’s mission — in jeopardy.

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And don't even try to argue he didn't understand what he was doing when he did this. He just bets he won't face consequences as long as Trump is covering for him.