Shannon_Foraker wrote:I just didn't really get the joke. I sometime struggle with that type of stuff.
Or missed the cultural references completely, like it was for me.
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by ThinksMarkedly » Sun May 08, 2022 12:05 pm | |
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Or missed the cultural references completely, like it was for me. |
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by tlb » Sun May 08, 2022 12:48 pm | |
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An OER is an Officer's Efficiency Report, filled out at regular intervals by the immediate commanding officer and it is the key document that is checked by the promotion review board. A bad review can keep you from getting promoted at the next interval. I do not know the policy now, but it has been the case that if an officer is passed over a certain number of times (I think it was 3), then that officer is released from service in a case of "Up or Out". The jest seemed to be saying that she was just being promoted due to an equal opportunity policy, rather than her intellect and drive. It would be easier to suggest that family connections helped in her case, because in this future and place there is no rationale for an "equal opportunity policy". |
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by cthia » Mon May 09, 2022 10:47 am | |
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Oops! I missed this post. My niece was a very precocious young girl. She was too inquisitive for her britches. She would ask questions about every single thing possible beginning when she was born. Since I answered every one of her questions my sister blames me for her genius, and annoying habits. LOL I continued to answer her questions throughout her life until her questions became too difficult for me, and, apparently, for her teachers as well. The school system wanted to send her to college at 13! My sister was shittin' bricks and said no way. So I don't know, Sonja and Shannon both could have been born with the genius gene and pure curiosity and drive made them into mental Giants. And if those genes were related to Alphas or some other related genetic soup, nature would have likewise taken its course. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by ThinksMarkedly » Mon May 09, 2022 11:29 am | |
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Even if Sonja had been sent to Saganami Island at age 13 -- which I seriously doubt, we're talking about joining the military here, and intellectual age is not the only or even the most important aspect -- she'd likely not have made Lieutenant Commander in only 10 years. This was the pre-expansion Navy, where the Prince was only a Lieutenant aboard a destroyer before joining Commodore Adcock, and at least a few of those years of hers would have been in the same Project Gram that was a blackhole of information. And much less in 2 years that would be required for her to be 20 years Hamish's junior. She wouldn't be out of the Academy yet, so not even an Ensign. |
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by Fox2! » Mon May 09, 2022 1:32 pm | |
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Sorry, that was a little too inside baseball. When I was in the AIr Force, an OER had three parts. One was a numeric score for the officer's abilities in certain named areas. The second was the individual's ranking among others of the same grade, scored by his or her immediate supervisor, a more senior evaluator, and a final evaluator at an even higher level, all in the same chain of command. The third part is a free form evaluation of the officer's accomplishments. A mandatory part of this was a statement that the ratee fully supported the Equal Opportunity Program, not that he (or she, in the case of Sonja) was the beneficiary of the EOP. Since her duties and accomplishments on Gram were so highly classified, the only possible unclassified part of her evaluation, beyond "Done Good in support of highly classified programs" would have been the EOP statement. And even that may have been considered too much information. |
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by Jonathan_S » Mon May 09, 2022 3:39 pm | |
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Ah - now it makes sense. Thanks for explaining. |
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by tlb » Mon May 09, 2022 4:40 pm | |
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I regret the way I completely misunderstood your post. My only excuse (aside from the fact that my contact with the military dates from before 1975) is that in Sonja Hemphill's Navy there is no need nor rationale for an "equal opportunity policy"; therefore I could not recognize your purpose for mentioning it. Sorry about that. |
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by Fox2! » Mon May 09, 2022 4:58 pm | |
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I realized almost as soon as I pressed Enter that there wasn't enough info in that post. I plead the press of an imminent Telecon for not being clearer. I had a co-worker who claimed to have received just such an evaluation when he was enlisted. Which sort of inspired my response. |
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by Shannon_Foraker » Thu May 12, 2022 3:13 pm | |
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This is from Spoilers and possible Errors in House of Steel eARC, but didn't want to bump it, and thought it fit better in Sonja's thread.
Sorry for the topic change from Apollo arguments.
I'd say that Sonja's politics have moderated since the court-martial. After all, she and Shannon get along, despite
She also is able to be in a meeting with those who don't share her political views and not restart a war, as of ART. She's a much saner CA peer than High Ridge, even at her worst (HoS, with the near-duel incident), in my opinion. Despite her not enjoying politics, could she potentially someday lead a saner and more moderate CA? Or would she lean toward another party? New CA (under someone with a good brain)policy could extend to being friends with Haven and the SEM's allies. |
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by Theemile » Thu May 12, 2022 3:58 pm | |
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The North Hollow documents are gone - as is her cousin Janacheck. The entire calculus of the Manty Lords has changed - North Hollow had some level of control over 75% of the Peerage because of the secrets in those files. (and a good % of the rest of the rich and powerful commoners as well) Janacheck held power over the "conservative" political admirals, and Hemphill's fortunes (unrightfully so) were seen to be attached to Janacheck's coat-tails. So she was caught in the machine - and she knew it. At the trial, Hemphill was being used as puppet for the conservatives - she mostly followed the party line, but "broke" with them about Young remaining in Uniform, and brokered the deal that let him off with just a discharge. In her conscious, she knew she couldn't stand someone like Young to remain in uniform, and if she voted as she wanted, the conservatives would shut down the RMN just when it needed funding to persecute the war, while voting with the "Party" would cause a schism in the RMN leadership when it was least needed - in addition to the flood of dirty laundry from North Hollow files which would distract the same leadership from the war. The middle track she walked appeased both, and kept the RMN in the fight. In retrospect it as the perfect balancing act of an astute political analyst. ******
RFC said "refitting a Beowulfan SD to Manticoran standards would be just as difficult as refitting a standard SLN SD to those standards. In other words, it would be cheaper and faster to build new ships." |
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