Defense of Felix

Quantum Communication

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"Oh my Alpha. We don't need a dispatch boat. We have solved our Two Generals' Problem."

You don't think Alphas know ahead of time that the GA will seize Felix? They want them to do it.

Hmm... what can a navy do if it knows exactly where you will concentrate a lot of your forces?* And what if that navy is invisible. That is how Honor lost Courvosier.

* I bet the SLN knows what that navy can do.



It is ironic the RMN does not realize how the threat environment has changed.

Well, if I was them and could plant the info I’d have them go after something totally worthless. And then when they take the bait and show up you crush them like a bug.

You know how the threat environment has changed.

Is it the case that they would only be attacking Felix, if they knew that Mannerheim and the Renaissance Factor were actually a front for the Malign?

Trapdoor Spider


How can a navy hope to seize the Felix Junction if Felix's defensive forces are invisible? How do you know if you have succeeded in seizing the junction or simply delivered yourself unto a trap? Says the Trapdoor Spider to the fly.


Do consider that my notion of a Spider hiding behind the intense gravity of the WHJ extends to any junction. Felix belongs to the MAN. There is a Spider(s) already in its nest.

penny wrote:Felix belongs to the MAN.

Whatever, I just want to know what the GA learned that would make them want to control Felix? How, Why, When and Where did they learn that Felix belongs to the Malign?

penny wrote: Trapdoor Spider


How can a navy hope to seize the Felix Junction if Felix's defensive forces are invisible? How do you know if you have succeeded in seizing the junction or simply delivered yourself unto a trap? Says the Trapdoor Spider to the fly.


Do consider that my notion of a Spider hiding behind the intense gravity of the WHJ extends to any junction. Felix belongs to the MAN. There is a Spider(s) already in its nest.

They don't need to seize it. They just need to deny it to the Alignment and the MAN.

From inside the wormhole to the edge of the junction's hyperlimit, a ship takes over 5 minutes at 150 gravities. That's more than enough time to fire a brace of missiles from a shoal previously deployed around the Junction from 46 million km away, which is too far for the MAN to find all. All of this can be controlled by a single long-endurance light cruiser. And they don't need to destroy the LDs: they just need to damage them sufficiently that their stealth is compromised, to cause them to be mission-kill.

The only difficulty is the initial insertion. But then the GA can take a page or two off the MAlign's book: translate from hyper a light-hour away and shuffle the pods out of the freighter's holds while in transit. The actual insertion does not need to be stealthy: the MAN can know that a task force transitioned somewhere. So long as they don't know where the task force went and where the control ships and pods are located, they can't do much about them.

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penny wrote: Trapdoor Spider


How can a navy hope to seize the Felix Junction if Felix's defensive forces are invisible? How do you know if you have succeeded in seizing the junction or simply delivered yourself unto a trap? Says the Trapdoor Spider to the fly.


Do consider that my notion of a Spider hiding behind the intense gravity of the WHJ extends to any junction. Felix belongs to the MAN. There is a Spider(s) already in its nest.

They don't need to seize it. They just need to deny it to the Alignment and the MAN.

From inside the wormhole to the edge of the junction's hyperlimit, a ship takes over 5 minutes at 150 gravities. That's more than enough time to fire a brace of missiles from a shoal previously deployed around the Junction from 46 million km away, which is too far for the MAN to find all. All of this can be controlled by a single long-endurance light cruiser. And they don't need to destroy the LDs: they just need to damage them sufficiently that their stealth is compromised, to cause them to be mission-kill.

The only difficulty is the initial insertion. But then the GA can take a page or two off the MAlign's book: translate from hyper a light-hour away and shuffle the pods out of the freighter's holds while in transit. The actual insertion does not need to be stealthy: the MAN can know that a task force transitioned somewhere. So long as they don't know where the task force went and where the control ships and pods are located, they can't do much about them.

Except that the GA is not aware of any need to do that. They are not aware of the scope of the new threat environment. So, any new arrivals or research parties or pickets would be destroyed. Nobody would know what happened to any small parties that were destroyed.

penny wrote:Except that the GA is not aware of any need to do that. They are not aware of the scope of the new threat environment. So, any new arrivals or research parties or pickets would be destroyed. Nobody would know what happened to any small parties that were destroyed.

I still do not understand; if they are not aware of something, then why are they doing ANYTHING with Felix? They are also required to have intelligence on Mannerheim and the Renaissance Factor. Not just suspicions, so that would mean that they must have already acted on Mannerheim. It is true that does not mean that they aware of the threat environment, but it does mean that the Renaissance Factor might not be able to play a part anymore.