might other nations be asking if the mantis are the badies?

we have an out of universe view so we know this is just not true but i'm wondering if some of manticore's neighbors might be getting nervorus.

1. between Silesia and the cluster, it sort of looks like they have turn expansionist.

2. their now friends allies with Haven. You know that nation that's been conquering everyone for the past few year?

3. I'm not sure how much this one is known but their no fully longer on board with the Beowulf Code. Manticore has good reasons, but i suspect for other nations hearing that someone has abandoned the code, would make them want to go run screaming, and bring to mind the idea of super soldiers and such.

Puidwen wrote:we have an out of universe view so we know this is just not true but i'm wondering if some of manticore's neighbors might be getting nervorus.

1. between Silesia and the cluster, it sort of looks like they have turn expansionist.

2. their now friends allies with Haven. You know that nation that's been conquering everyone for the past few year?

3. I'm not sure how much this one is known but their no fully longer on board with the Beowulf Code. Manticore has good reasons, but i suspect for other nations hearing that someone has abandoned the code, would make them want to go run screaming, and bring to mind the idea of super soldiers and such.

Maybe I'm forgetting something -- but when did Manticore stop being fully on board with the Beowulf Code?

Puidwen wrote:we have an out of universe view so we know this is just not true but i'm wondering if some of manticore's neighbors might be getting nervorus.

1. between Silesia and the cluster, it sort of looks like they have turn expansionist.

2. their now friends allies with Haven. You know that nation that's been conquering everyone for the past few year?

3. I'm not sure how much this one is known but their no fully longer on board with the Beowulf Code. Manticore has good reasons, but i suspect for other nations hearing that someone has abandoned the code, would make them want to go run screaming, and bring to mind the idea of super soldiers and such.

Manticore's direct neighbors have a good 1:1 relationship with Manticore, and probably arn't worried - or would just come out and voice any concerns directly with Manticore. After all, they were in the alliance with Manticore - Manticore has been upgrading their navies with 1st and 2nd tier ships, and been performing security when necessary. Nations like Iowa got sweetheart deals from Manticore to help exploit natural resources, with security provisions.

If any remote 3rd party looks behind the headlines and "Facebook" hype, they will find that the Talbott polities requested annexation, and the SKM rejected the application of several systems because their politics did not align with the SKM's. The Manticore Alliance members (Most direct neighbors of Manticore) have not been not touched, and have in fact been gifted military hardware in many cases. San Martin Voted to join the SKM. While Silesia was a military intervention, it was a famous cesspool, and it's planets and citizens have been granted rights and have a roadmap to membership or freedom.

The German Democratic Republic was democratic! And a republic! It says it in the name! How dare you suggest that it was a murderous totalitarian police state!

kzt wrote:The German Democratic Republic was democratic! And a republic! It says it in the name! How dare you suggest that it was a murderous totalitarian police state!

Uh-huh... as is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Theemile wrote:

kzt wrote:The German Democratic Republic was democratic! And a republic! It says it in the name! How dare you suggest that it was a murderous totalitarian police state!

Uh-huh... as is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Democratic Republic of Afghanistan, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Democratic Republic of Vietnam, Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, People’s Democratic Republic of Algeria, People's Democratic Republic of Yemen, People's Republic of China, People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, and the Somali Democratic Republic


Almost like countries that are democratic, or republics, don't need their names to advertise that they are

Jonathan_S wrote:Democratic Republic of Afghanistan, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Democratic Republic of Vietnam, Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, People’s Democratic Republic of Algeria, People's Democratic Republic of Yemen, People's Republic of China, People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, and the Somali Democratic Republic


Almost like countries that are democratic, or republics, don't need their names to advertise that they are

Modern Afghanistan is the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, which is even sort of true, and Britain is the United Kingdom, with a real King.

My country is The Commonwealth of Australia, which when you think of it is a socialist ideal.
Meanwhile from a distance, the United States appears to be more and more the Disunited States, with two distinct tribes. Educated big city elites, and religious country good old boys.

kzt wrote:The German Democratic Republic was democratic! And a republic! It says it in the name! How dare you suggest that it was a murderous totalitarian police state!

An indirect heir to the Holy Roman Empire, after all.

Theemile wrote:Manticore's direct neighbors have a good 1:1 relationship with Manticore, and probably arn't worried - or would just come out and voice any concerns directly with Manticore. After all, they were in the alliance with Manticore - Manticore has been upgrading their navies with 1st and 2nd tier ships, and been performing security when necessary. Nations like Iowa got sweetheart deals from Manticore to help exploit natural resources, with security provisions.

That's Idaho and that natural resource is a wormhole. Moreover, Idaho, Marsh, and Grayson are the perfect examples to anyone who actually bothers to look past headlines (pushed by the MAlign of course) to see how Manticore actually treats their allies and neighbours.

We have yet to see the political result of the RMN operations against the second phase of the MAlign anti-SEM propaganda in the Verge was, the one where the operatives like Firebrand were attempting to pass as Manticorans and offer aid. We know that in systems like Meroa, the RMN and the MARSN were preventing insurrections from happening in Manticore's name.

But Adm. Gold Peak liberated the entire Madras sector from OFS and the transstellars, but did not annex them to the SEM. There will for certain be some anti-Manticore propaganda who will say that the King of Meyers is actually just a Manticore puppet (he was an OFS puppet after all), but the other governments in the region, like Chotěboř, Włocławek, Mobius, Loomis, Saltash, should help dispel the notion. Though I don't think it'll help that those systems will ask for voluntary annexation soon...

And then there's the other system that Gold Peak conquered & liberated: Mesa. In this one, the GA did impose a transitional government and occupied it with military forces, but has already pulled back.

The Maya Sector will be the best, recent poster child, showing that one can remain independent and still friends.