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Aliens? Invading aliens? What will Earth do? Well...we may have a few more resources than we first thought. Come join a friendly discussion about David Weber's newest Tor series - "Out of the Dark."
Re: Spoilers, the "Other Guys"
Post by Robert_A_Woodward   » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:34 am

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Holypope0618 wrote:I'm thinking that the 5th race could be humans and Earth was a lost colony or stranded ships crew that happened as a result of the removal from the hegemony.


This is basically impossible. First, we belong on this planet, all macroscopic life is related to us (though plants are rather distant). Second, there is no sign of a relatively recent previous high-tech civilization on this planet (the pollution we will leave behind in ocean sediments and Antarctica ice fields will be unmistakable).
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Re: Spoilers, the "Other Guys"
Post by ThinksMarkedly   » Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:03 pm

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Holypope0618 wrote:I'm thinking that the 5th race could be humans and Earth was a lost colony or stranded ships crew that happened as a result of the removal from the hegemony.


Not impossible, but "earth is a lost colony" is too-used trope. I don't think that's likely.

How do the nanites and vampires fit into your theory?
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Re: Spoilers, the "Other Guys"
Post by ecortez   » Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:53 pm

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Holypope0618 wrote:I'm thinking that the 5th race could be humans and Earth was a lost colony or stranded ships crew that happened as a result of the removal from the hegemony.


I have a feeling, even if they've edited the 5th race out of their histories and databases, the leaders of the GH know about their lost founding member. They would've recognized humans in the scouting reports and reacted with far greater alarm. Oh no - some of them survived!!!

That's on top of the fact that we know every form of life on Earth (including us) shares a respectable chunk of their DNA in common. Plus we have a fossil record of our own evolution through intermediate forms. It takes a really contrived plotline to contend we originated elsewhere. Maybe God created fossil evidence to test believers, that sort of logic.

The nanitizing cave device may have been put there on purpose for us to discover, or it may be left over from a colony the 5th race had on Earth and then abandoned. Which is why the nanos weren't originally keyed to human physiology. Nanotech can be self-repairing and so theoretically have an infinite shelf life. No way of knowing how long ago it was placed where Vlad found it.
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