Putin bounties on US troops, and Trump's response.

Dilandu wrote:

The E wrote:
And yet, letting someone put bounties on your soldier's heads is the sort of thing that kinda demands a response; it doesn't have to be a big splashy one, but it's a challenge that can't go unanswered.

Problem is, that it is not proven fact. It is what "US intelligence concluded", which boil down to "how some facts and clues were interpreted to appease superiors". There are no proofs; only accusations. And we all knew that by now American's official word could seriously drop the cost of paper, on which it is written.

The scandal really Isn't that Russia is doing whatever its doing. It is that Trump is enabling it.

No, It's not proven fact. But the difficulty is that the sort of thing that would constitute proof probably can't be put out in the public.

As for America's word, I know that I don't trust us right now, especially if it comes out of the White House. But I don't think anything official has been said.

As for Afghanistan, I am in favor of pulling out. This was a response to the Twin Towers attack and Al Queda is long gone. Whether going in there was a good response in the first place is at best debatable. What should have been obvious was that the place was a sink for both human and material resources. I guess the reason we are still there is that someone still worries that the area could once again be used as the staging area for an attack.

Don

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Don't worry folks.

It's a fake story, didn't happen, and he was never briefed on it either.

Or so Trumps latest diatribe on the subject appears to say.

Annachie wrote:Don't worry folks.

It's a fake story, didn't happen, and he was never briefed on it either.

Or so Trumps latest diatribe on the subject appears to say.

Yeah, that was inevitable, wasn't it. I wish that the man's integrity was such that we could believe him. The scarey part is that he probably believes himself. But he is who he is and if wishes were pennies We'd all be millionaires... Just a bit over 4 months to the election.

Don

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Annachie wrote:Don't worry folks.

It's a fake story, didn't happen, and he was never briefed on it either.

Or so Trumps latest diatribe on the subject appears to say.

Inevitably followed by the independent confirmation that yeah... it did happen:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/27/politics ... index.html

European intel officials confirming to CNN it's legit. So now their best defense is what... try to claim after 3 and a half years running the government Trump doesn't have a single person in his administration who would tell him Russia was paying bounties for dead US soldiers? Because yeah... that would make him look like a super effective president...

Or too busy watching White Power video's to pay attention.

That's an excuse I could believe.

The story about the bounty on Russia placing a bounty on coalition troops keeps growing. It turns out that an American unit raided a Taliban camp and found a half million in cash apparently to pay bounties. Also it turns out that this story has been perking for over a year. Despite denials, the White House was briefed and the NSC has discussed ways to respond. But nothing happened, apparently because Trump was unwilling to sign off on a response.

A wonderful kettle of fish, huh...

Don

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n7axw wrote:The story about the bounty on Russia placing a bounty on coalition troops keeps growing. It turns out that an American unit raided a Taliban camp and found a half million in cash apparently to pay bounties. Also it turns out that this story has been perking for over a year. Despite denials, the White House was briefed and the NSC has discussed ways to respond. But nothing happened, apparently because Trump was unwilling to sign off on a response.

A wonderful kettle of fish, huh...

Don

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In other words; they found money and deduced that it must be bounties and of course put by Evul Russianz.

Seriously, this is started to get both annoying and demonstrative.

Dilandu wrote:In other words; they found money and deduced that it must be bounties and of course put by Evul Russianz.

Seriously, this is started to get both annoying and demonstrative.

You do realize that we know that the russian government is doing some deeply shady shit out in the world, right?
And that you protesting your country's innocence is meaningless, because you do not know the details of every shady business your government is engaging in?

Dilandu wrote:

n7axw wrote:The story about the bounty on Russia placing a bounty on coalition troops keeps growing. It turns out that an American unit raided a Taliban camp and found a half million in cash apparently to pay bounties. Also it turns out that this story has been perking for over a year. Despite denials, the White House was briefed and the NSC has discussed ways to respond. But nothing happened, apparently because Trump was unwilling to sign off on a response.

A wonderful kettle of fish, huh...

Don

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In other words; they found money and deduced that it must be bounties and of course put by Evul Russianz.

Seriously, this is started to get both annoying and demonstrative.

Oh please! If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, acts like a duck, sings like a duck, has WINGS like a duck, it's Russia.

Can't believe what American government says? Oh please again. Russia lies to itself, it's people, and the world when the world sees it! Remember that conversation in the Floating Chernobyl thread? Your country can't even trust itself.

I know, I know. That's old Russia huh? Back when it was in chaos? Well, Russia isn't in chaos now. You're a well organized bunch of thugs.

But believe me, I do understand, I think. Kinda hard to sift through Russian shit. It's easier for the Iron Curtain to lie to the world and its citizens, even when they're dying of radiation.

You seem to get annoyed quite a bit when truths are spoken about Russia. You must be annoyed quite a bit. Guess who can give a shit?

But you CAN help me OUT ...

WHAT THE HELL KIND OF DEVIANTLY SICK SORDID SEXUAL SHITTY SHIT DOES PUTIN HAVE ON TRUMP!?

And yes, I admit it, you groomed the right American president for the job, perfectly!

I guess he's American. I can't trucking tell. Perhaps we need to see HIS birth certificate.

Dilandu wrote:

n7axw wrote:The story about the bounty on Russia placing a bounty on coalition troops keeps growing. It turns out that an American unit raided a Taliban camp and found a half million in cash apparently to pay bounties. Also it turns out that this story has been perking for over a year. Despite denials, the White House was briefed and the NSC has discussed ways to respond. But nothing happened, apparently because Trump was unwilling to sign off on a response.

A wonderful kettle of fish, huh...

Don

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In other words; they found money and deduced that it must be bounties and of course put by Evul Russianz.

Seriously, this is started to get both annoying and demonstrative.

One thing I should have mentioned was that Intel monitored a large transfer of money from Moscow into a Taliban related account. Also the bounty info was gotten from captured Taliban prisoners...

Actually Dilandu, nobody here is actually anti-Russian. At least I'm not. But nobody likes Putin and his cronies. From here they look like a combination of the Russian mob and a government. Their number one victim hasn't been us. It has been the Russian people. They enrich themselves at your expense. Money that should have gone into modernization has instead gone into the pockets of Putin and his cronies. What he has done to annoy us is really petty change compared to that.

Don

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