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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:54 am

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Annachie wrote:Fly.

One problem with that.

As an American conservative, you watch communism fail, and then assume that socialism is the same.

But miss the basic reason for that failure.

When you take ownership/control away from the people corruption runs rife.

Marx saw the government taking control as the second step. That the government would then remove itself from the equation. He forgot to take human corruptability into account.

But, as a conservative, you fail to see the same lack of ownership/control happening in a capitalist country like your own. (And mine)
Ownership/control goes away, corruption ensues.

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True conservatives actually understand that left unfettered from honest government regulation, capitalism will inevitably degenerate into an oligarchy in which an extremely small group of people control all of the wealth. Crony capitalism in which there is an unholy alliance between the wealthiest and corrupt politicians accellerates this process by imposing overly complex regulations and mandates that put smaller businesses at a disadvantage.

President Obama was the best friend the high tech billionaires ever had.
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:09 pm

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I could gloat that gun control is really working in New Zealand, but New Zealanders generally enjoy limited gun regulation compared to most of Europe.

The Mossberg 930 "tactical" shotgun is merely a slight alteration of a politically correct hunting weapon. The biggest difference is a longer, somewhat higher capacity magazine tube. However; this murderer was having to reload continuously during his rampage which is actually easy to do. A pump action shotgun would have been just as devastating as the semiautomatic with a minimal decrease in actual firing rate.

Just to put a 12 gauge shotgun in perspective, each shot fired has about ten times the wounding capacity of an AR-15 assault rifle. Smaller shot size merely decreases the lethal range but even birshot is lethal in close quarters like this. At intermediate range of 20 to 100 meters, a shotgun loaded with buckshot can wound and kill multiple people with each round fired.

I know a scum sucking whore of an attorney in Oregon who would eagerely offer perjured testimony by a marijunna bootlegger and alleged "gun expert" to support the Elmer Fudd defense that a shotgun is not an extremely dangerous weapon. Judge Ladd Wiles of Yamhill County would swallow this bull shit hook, line and sinker.
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by gcomeau   » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:26 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:I could gloat that gun control is really working in New Zealand,


If you wanted to make an idiot of yourself for the approximately millionth time on this forum you could do that yes...

This is the only mass shooting they have had in over 20 years. That looks an awful lot like "working" to anyone with functional grey matter.
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by Joat42   » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:11 pm

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gcomeau wrote:
TFLYTSNBN wrote:I could gloat that gun control is really working in New Zealand,


If you wanted to make an idiot of yourself for the approximately millionth time on this forum you could do that yes...

This is the only mass shooting they have had in over 20 years. That looks an awful lot like "working" to anyone with functional grey matter.

Plus, it seems New Zealand is going to re-work the laws for owning weapons because of this incident - like any sane nation would do when there is a mass-shooting.

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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by Annachie   » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:44 pm

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There were calls dating back 2 or 3 years in NZ to strengthen the gun laws there.

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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:57 am

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Joat42 wrote:
gcomeau wrote:

If you wanted to make an idiot of yourself for the approximately millionth time on this forum you could do that yes...

This is the only mass shooting they have had in over 20 years. That looks an awful lot like "working" to anyone with functional grey matter.

Plus, it seems New Zealand is going to re-work the laws for owning weapons because of this incident - like any sane nation would do when there is a mass-shooting.



Working great in Australia.

The mass murderers now have to commit arson to kill lots of people.

Interesting to look at national origins.

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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:58 am

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Meanwhile, in Nigeria...

https://gellerreport.com/2019/03/muslim ... ians.html/

None of the politically correct on this forum care because the victims are Christians.
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by smr   » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:16 pm

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Remember these poor people have been programmed this way...they would rather be emotional outraged at Trump then forced to think for themselves. Remember the Christians started this whole mess with the Crusades. They seem to forget or don't care that Europe, Africa, and the Middle East was mostly Christian. They don't want to admit that the Muslim religion was forced on the Christians and Jews. Convert, be a slave, or die were most of the standard choices for the citizens of the nations conquered by the Muslim hordes!Just remember that Lebanon in 60's was mostly 90% Christian. Look how the Muslims took over Lebanon through force!
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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by Annachie   » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:47 pm

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I could point out that it was you who brought up NZ fly.
With a yet again easily disproved stupid statement about gun control.

I could point out that you only mentioned Kaduna because various right wing nut job sites are, in a desperate attempt to deflect from the gun control debate.
Indeed, New Zealand just blew a huge hole in the usual pro-gun tactic used at these times. "It's too soon"

I could also point out that those self same sites seem to fail to mention the previous masacre in Nigeria, that was of 400 or so Muslims.

Or that religion had nothing to do with Kaduna, it was tribal ethnicity. Same as Zaria (the above mentioned 400), and Biafran, and way too many other Nigerian masacres to list.
Sadly, it was politics in a country that has been in virtual or actual civil war for decades.

But NZ wasn't ethnicity. It was pure religion.
With guns that New Zealanders have been calling to ban for years.

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Re: Knives, Knives, Knives
Post by Daryl   » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:37 pm

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The loser who comitted this was an Australian, and there is some speculation that he did it in NZ because he couldn't get semi autos in Australia.
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