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Trump is a racist. He isn't even hiding it anymore.

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Re: Trump is a racist. He isn't even hiding it anymore.
Post by gcomeau   » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:32 am

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smr wrote:Bring the proofs just be sure you provide the links so it can be fact checked.


Every time we provide the quotes you ignore them. Ingraham was on her NATIONALLY TELEVISED SHOW ffs, so yeah it's on the record. As are all of Trump's twitter rants and campaign rally screeds which you have been repeatedly referred to throughout the last 2 years.


In the meantime you consistently fail to back up your random conspiracy theories while demanding proof that things that happened right out in the open in front of everybody actually happened.
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Re: Trump is a racist. He isn't even hiding it anymore.
Post by gcomeau   » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:57 pm

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Just going to leave this here, after Trump was meeting with the "Bikers for Trump" this weekend and laughing it up and giving them photo ops with the President of the United States...

https://twitter.com/lehudgins/status/10 ... 1359753216


Yes, that's an SS tattoo on his arm.

(Now let's all look how surprised NOBODY is)
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Re: Trump is a racist. He isn't even hiding it anymore.
Post by smr   » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:20 am

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Guilt by association. Nice parlor trick, please try again!
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Re: Trump is a racist. He isn't even hiding it anymore.
Post by The E   » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:03 pm

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smr wrote:Guilt by association. Nice parlor trick, please try again!


Oh, shall we?

Here's one statement by your very own Trump:
There is nothing that I would want more for our Country than true FREEDOM OF THE PRESS. The fact is that the Press is FREE to write and say anything it wants, but much of what it says is FAKE NEWS, pushing a political agenda or just plain trying to hurt people. HONESTY WINS!


Here's a little known philosopher and painter from the early 20th Century, on a similar subject:
"It is the press, above all, which wages a positively fanatical and slanderous struggle, tearing down everything which can be regarded as a support of national independence, cultural elevation, and the economic independence of the nation."

Can you guess who that quote is from?


(Spoilers: It's Hitler. Because of course it is.)
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Re: Trump is a racist. He isn't even hiding it anymore.
Post by smr   » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:02 pm

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90% of news and political commentary are owned by 6 companies within the US.

Now the true enemies of freedom control most of the opposition.


“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”

― Vladimir Lenin

The best way to control the media is own mainstream media and the opposition. Control the narrative and control the opposition. We the people are sheep and are sleeping at the wheel while driving through life. Think in terms of the matrix.
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Re: Trump is a racist. He isn't even hiding it anymore.
Post by The E   » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:03 pm

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smr wrote:90% of news and political commentary are owned by 6 companies within the US.

Now the true enemies of freedom control most of the opposition.


“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”

― Vladimir Lenin


I agree with you that capitalism has failed and that it is time for a redistribution of the means of production into the hands of the common people.
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Re: Trump is a racist. He isn't even hiding it anymore.
Post by smr   » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:23 pm

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Is time to break up the Goggle etc...and put some guarantees of free speech back into the Internet. Break up the media giants. Time to outlaw shadow banning. Time to put some real limits of the data that is collected on the Internet. We could go on forever on this subject but that's not going to change until we get the people at the top that really control the world and their puppets but that would take a very time just to write about let alone produce some real tangible results.
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Re: Trump is a racist. He isn't even hiding it anymore.
Post by gcomeau   » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:30 pm

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smr wrote:Guilt by association. Nice parlor trick, please try again!


Yeah that's who he associates with piled on top of the rest of this forum full of...

* What he says.
* What he does.
* Who he hires.
* Who he praises and defends.

What category are you still waiting for us to cover exactly?
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Re: Trump is a racist. He isn't even hiding it anymore.
Post by The E   » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:59 pm

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smr wrote:Is time to break up the Goggle etc...and put some guarantees of free speech back into the Internet.


As anyone who knows the subject knows (which I'm guessing you don't), this is fundamentally impossible. If Google does not exist, something else will take its place, because something like it is necessary for the internet to function at all. If facebook or twitter do not exist, something else will rise. If youtube does not exist... you get the idea.

The internet already gives you a guaranteed way to have free speech. All it requires is that you: Own and operate your own server, Own and operate a connection to one of the big backbone connections, own and operate your own TLD, and make sure that everything just described lives in a place outside of any jurisdiction.

If you can't pull all of that off, then you have to accept the possibility that it will be possible to interfere with your freedom of speech.

Oh, and by the way: Even if you do all of that? You are still only guaranteeing that you have a platform. There is no guarantee that anyone will ever hear you.

The internet cannot be replaced. There is a literally uncountable amount of money tied up in it.

Break up the media giants.


Okay, but then what? Do you then institute rules against media companies becoming too big? How do you enforce them?

Of course, I do wholeheartedly support more government control over corporations. But I am pretty sure that you don't.

Time to outlaw shadow banning.


Please define shadow banning in a way that can be turned into a legal rule.

See, the problem is that you can't: Google adjusting their algorithms to derank news sources you like is an example of corporate free speech.
ANY instance of shadow banning ultimately is, so what you actually have to define is the ability of a platform owner to curate content on their platform.

(Oh, and by the way? A lot of instances of shadow banning are a result of database synchronization failures that you are misreading)

Time to put some real limits of the data that is collected on the Internet.


Oh hey, something sensible. We got those rules in the EU right now, they're pretty great.

We could go on forever on this subject but that's not going to change until we get the people at the top that really control the world and their puppets but that would take a very time just to write about let alone produce some real tangible results.


Wants an autocratic government? Check.
Wants an increase in government power? Check.
Wishes for a strong leader to use the above to make changes? Check.

Really not putting the assumption that you're a fascist to bed here, are you.
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Re: Trump is a racist. He isn't even hiding it anymore.
Post by smr   » Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:05 pm

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I agree with the EU about the data collecting policies.
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