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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by saber964   » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:10 pm

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It depends on what type of ship Rachel is assigned to? If she's assigned to a heavy cruiser, a good bet is that ship will have a sudden transfer of a squad of Grayson Marines on joint duty. As to Joanna the RMN will follow tradition and assign no additional protection except for normal duties situations.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by ldwechsler   » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:36 pm

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saber964 wrote:It depends on what type of ship Rachel is assigned to? If she's assigned to a heavy cruiser, a good bet is that ship will have a sudden transfer of a squad of Grayson Marines on joint duty. As to Joanna the RMN will follow tradition and assign no additional protection except for normal duties situations.



I sort of recall Rachel was interested in engineering. That MIGHT
lead to fewer guards since she would be less likely to leave the ship. Of course, that would be after the snotty cruise. And, of course she has a treecat of her own.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by Theemile   » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:50 am

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saber964 wrote:It depends on what type of ship Rachel is assigned to? If she's assigned to a heavy cruiser, a good bet is that ship will have a sudden transfer of a squad of Grayson Marines on joint duty. As to Joanna the RMN will follow tradition and assign no additional protection except for normal duties situations.


No such thing as Grayson Marines - the Grayson Army provides boarding and security forces for the GSN.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by saber964   » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:21 pm

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Theemile wrote:
saber964 wrote:It depends on what type of ship Rachel is assigned to? If she's assigned to a heavy cruiser, a good bet is that ship will have a sudden transfer of a squad of Grayson Marines on joint duty. As to Joanna the RMN will follow tradition and assign no additional protection except for normal duties situations.


No such thing as Grayson Marines - the Grayson Army provides boarding and security forces for the GSN.



That changed, the GSMC is a sub branch of the Grayson Army. But I can see a squad or two from the 5019th Special Battalion transferring in all of a sudden.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by CmdrAthenaAprilist   » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:09 pm

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I like how my silly little filksong morphed into a serious discussion on the security issues of royalty! :geek:
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by pappilon   » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:19 pm

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saber964 wrote:It depends on what type of ship Rachel is assigned to? If she's assigned to a heavy cruiser, a good bet is that ship will have a sudden transfer of a squad of Grayson Marines on joint duty. As to Joanna the RMN will follow tradition and assign no additional protection except for normal duties situations.




Seriously? A squad to protect a princess not even in the line of succession? Women are still barred fro inheriting the Sword, but not the keys, IIRC.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by Theemile   » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:55 pm

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saber964 wrote:
Theemile wrote:No such thing as Grayson Marines - the Grayson Army provides boarding and security forces for the GSN.



That changed, the GSMC is a sub branch of the Grayson Army. But I can see a squad or two from the 5019th Special Battalion transferring in all of a sudden.


There is no GSMC as of 1921 - from HoS -
"When Manticore began providing the GSN with warships, the Navy realized that it was unable to provide the troops necessary to fill the traditional role of the RMMC onboard a Manticoran warship. Instead, they revised the berthing arrangements and duty stations to split apart the traditional roles. On-mount crew, corpsmen and damage control teams traditionally filled by Manticoran Marines were assigned to naval crew, while a much smaller core of Army troops were embarked purely as shipboard security and boarding parties. The Grayson Navy has always taken an active role in boarding parties, and the expectation was that naval troops would fill any gaps where necessary. This transition has not been without its rough spots, but overall the process has been a success."


The 5019th would still be considered an Army unit, unless there has been a reorg since the Yawatta Strike.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by Louis R   » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:25 am

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More sepcifically, Abigail became part of the Owens succession at some point between her middy cruise and her assignment to Nasty Kitty, when Grayson law was amended to make Faith heiress to Harrington Steading as the oldest sister of the 'deceased', and then-childless, founding Steadholder.

At which point, it was realised that all those newly-entitlted daughters required the company of the single armsman normally detailed to protect any potential heir not the heir apparent. And a certain RMMC sergeant was persuaded - by means still unknown - to accept a commission in the Owens Guard and fill that role for Abby.

The same legislation reaffirmed the restriction of the Protectorship to heirs male, so not only do Rachel and her sisters have no place in the succession, neither, currently, will their children.

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Abby is not in line either. But she is her father's daughter just as Rachel is. Does anyone think the leaders of GSN are so stupid they would allow Rachel to be on a ship without extra protection?

The Masadans would love to get their hands on her. Breed her and get a son or two and challenge for the leadership of Grayson.


Oh, but she (that is: Abigail) is. Only after her brothers, right - but in case any of them would pass without producing a male heir, she would be the next steadholder.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by George J. Smith   » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:12 pm

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Louis R wrote:
The same legislation reaffirmed the restriction of the Protectorship to heirs male, so not only do Rachel and her sisters have no place in the succession, neither, currently, will their children.


I would assume that if Benjamin's male children die without male heirs, and/or Benjamin's brother dies without male heirs, then the male heirs of Benjamin's daughters would be in line for the Protectorship.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by Fox2!   » Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:29 pm

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George J. Smith wrote:
Louis R wrote:
The same legislation reaffirmed the restriction of the Protectorship to heirs male, so not only do Rachel and her sisters have no place in the succession, neither, currently, will their children.


I would assume that if Benjamin's male children die without male heirs, and/or Benjamin's brother dies without male heirs, then the male heirs of Benjamin's daughters would be in line for the Protectorship.


The Graysons have a history of being ... shall we say, inventive, in finding a way to get an heir. Accepting a grandson by the Protector's daughter, if there are no other male heirs, might be better than legitimating a previous Protector's by-blow to create a male heir through a male line.
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