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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by kzt   » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:02 pm

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Sure. And tomorrow I could have Taylor Swift call me up and invite me on tour.

Basically there are a series of checkpoints you have to go through to do certain things in the RMN (or USN too). Department head tour, various schools you have to complete, xo tour, promotion or at least selection, before you can be considered for command of an independent command.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by Michael Everett   » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:27 am

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ldwechsler wrote:Add to that the security required for "real" princesses: Abby is not really a princess and neither is Helen. But Abigail has one minder. Got to figure that Rachel will have at least three and that would mean Joanna would have to have the same.

Bolding mine.
Rachel is (IIRC) trying to mold herself so that she becomes Honor 2.0 and she even has the Treecat to help her.
Given that treecats are now range-capable, does Hipper count as one of the three?
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by Dauntless   » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:00 pm

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Michael Everett wrote:
ldwechsler wrote:Add to that the security required for "real" princesses: Abby is not really a princess and neither is Helen. But Abigail has one minder. Got to figure that Rachel will have at least three and that would mean Joanna would have to have the same.

Bolding mine.
Rachel is (IIRC) trying to mold herself so that she becomes Honor 2.0 and she even has the Treecat to help her.
Given that treecats are now range-capable, does Hipper count as one of the three?


Would be an interesting argument but I don't see them willing to establish the precedent. besides why settle for 2 and a cat if you can do 3 and a cat.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by phillies   » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:28 pm

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Weird Harold wrote:
Abby could wind up in command of a destroyer without filling the XO square or crusher. Her rank would be commander, her title/position would be "Captain."

Of course, by the time the next story arc begins, 20 t-years from now, Abby will be an Admiral, Helen her flag captain, Rachel TO, and Joanna as ATO, with Raoul as Abby's flag Lt all for a completely new batch of royal midshipmen that haven't even been born as of UH.


Twenty years to Admiral in a peacetime star fleet? Well, no. Captain would be a stretch.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by Weird Harold   » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:14 pm

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phillies wrote:Twenty years to Admiral in a peacetime star fleet? Well, no. Captain would be a stretch.


Who says there will be twenty years of peace? There is ample opportunity for many little brush-fire wars and dirty tricks by the MAlign.

The Grand Fleet may do some downsizing, but there will be plenty to do and room for promotions -- especially for spectacular examples of leadership and someone on the fast-track to be to GSN's first native-born female admiral.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by Louis R   » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:14 pm

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Probably because you don't, in fact, need any.

Rachel, unlike Abby, isn't in the line of succession. The Keys weren't ready to go as far as a female Protector. The may in another generation, but not yet.

Dauntless wrote:
Would be an interesting argument but I don't see them willing to establish the precedent. besides why settle for 2 and a cat if you can do 3 and a cat.


Michael Everett wrote:
ldwechsler wrote:Add to that the security required for "real" princesses: Abby is not really a princess and neither is Helen. But Abigail has one minder. Got to figure that Rachel will have at least three and that would mean Joanna would have to have the same.

Bolding mine.
Rachel is (IIRC) trying to mold herself so that she becomes Honor 2.0 and she even has the Treecat to help her.
Given that treecats are now range-capable, does Hipper count as one of the three?
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by ldwechsler   » Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:25 pm

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Louis R wrote:Probably because you don't, in fact, need any.

Rachel, unlike Abby, isn't in the line of succession. The Keys weren't ready to go as far as a female Protector. The may in another generation, but not yet.


Would be an interesting argument but I don't see them willing to establish the precedent. besides why settle for 2 and a cat if you can do 3 and a cat.


Michael Everett wrote:
ldwechsler wrote:Add to that the security required for "real" princesses: Abby is not really a princess and neither is Helen. But Abigail has one minder. Got to figure that Rachel will have at least three and that would mean Joanna would have to have the same.

Bolding mine.
Rachel is (IIRC) trying to mold herself so that she becomes Honor 2.0 and she even has the Treecat to help her.
Given that treecats are now range-capable, does Hipper count as one of the three?
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Abby is not in line either. But she is her father's daughter just as Rachel is. Does anyone think the leaders of GSN are so stupid they would allow Rachel to be on a ship without extra protection?

The Masadans would love to get their hands on her. Breed her and get a son or two and challenge for the leadership of Grayson.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by Eagleeye   » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:38 am

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ldwechsler wrote:
Abby is not in line either. But she is her father's daughter just as Rachel is. Does anyone think the leaders of GSN are so stupid they would allow Rachel to be on a ship without extra protection?

The Masadans would love to get their hands on her. Breed her and get a son or two and challenge for the leadership of Grayson.


Oh, but she (that is: Abigail) is. Only after her brothers, right - but in case any of them would pass without producing a male heir, she would be the next steadholder.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by munroburton   » Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:52 am

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ldwechsler wrote:Abby is not in line either. But she is her father's daughter just as Rachel is. Does anyone think the leaders of GSN are so stupid they would allow Rachel to be on a ship without extra protection?


I don't understand why they would need to provide Rachel with "extra protection" aboard a warship. The warship itself is secure against assassination or abduction attempts in a way that Landing City restaurants or Erewhonese casinos never could be.

They are not idiots. So they'll leave it at the single armsman, like they did for Abigail. They will also double-vet every crew member and the ship captain will have an informal conversation with a senior admiral. Probably whoever is the day-to-day commander of the Protector's Own at that time. A military life is much safer for royals than civilian life is.
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Re: Princess Cruises
Post by n7axw   » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:08 pm

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munroburton wrote:
ldwechsler wrote:Abby is not in line either. But she is her father's daughter just as Rachel is. Does anyone think the leaders of GSN are so stupid they would allow Rachel to be on a ship without extra protection?


I don't understand why they would need to provide Rachel with "extra protection" aboard a warship. The warship itself is secure against assassination or abduction attempts in a way that Landing City restaurants or Erewhonese casinos never could be.

They are not idiots. So they'll leave it at the single armsman, like they did for Abigail. They will also double-vet every crew member and the ship captain will have an informal conversation with a senior admiral. Probably whoever is the day-to-day commander of the Protector's Own at that time. A military life is much safer for royals than civilian life is.


At least until the shooting starts and it falls into the crapper... :mrgreen:

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