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by biochem » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:40 am | |
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by Joat42 » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:28 pm | |
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The problem with wanting real economic results is that people expects them to happen almost instantly, and when it takes years for any economic reform to hit its stride those people have been crying bloody murder the whole time (which makes it very easy to score some cheap political points). The political climate in the US is so polarized right now there is almost no civil debate at all, it is all about demonizing your political opponents. Moderates gets drowned out because the media is in a feeding frenzy and the people consumes it without thinking. And on top of that, having a president that reacts to everything instead of thinking things through doesn't help a bit.
--- Jack of all trades and destructive tinkerer. Anyone who have simple solutions for complex problems is a fool. |
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by The E » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:50 am | |
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Funny how it's the democrats' job to find someone who is not batshit insane. |
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by biochem » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:09 pm | |
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Because we live in a democracy and in a democracy if you hate an elected official (which the democrats do), the proper response is to find a candidate and persuade 51% of the voters to agree with you. |
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by Joat42 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:47 pm | |
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But that doesn't really work because of the electoral votes, you can win an election with only 11 states (CA, TX, NY, FL, IL, PA, OH, GA, MI, NC and NJ) which is a ~28% popular vote. You can even win an election with only a ~21% popular vote if you get AL, AK, AZ, AR, CA, CO, CT, DE, DC, HI, ID, KS, MN, MS, MT, NE, NV, NH, NM, ND, OK, OR, RI, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT, WA, WV, and WY. In other words, electoral votes makes it so that the US don't have truly democratic elections by popular vote. --- Jack of all trades and destructive tinkerer. Anyone who have simple solutions for complex problems is a fool. |
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by gcomeau » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:29 am | |
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And the Trump team now admits to not only meeting with Russian representative, but doing so *specifically* with the intent of trying to procure damaging intel on Clinton from a foreign power.
So to keep score... we have now moved from "Colluding with the Russians! WE WOULD NEVER! FAKE NEWS!!!!!!".... to "Ok so we tried to collude with the Russians, but they had nothing useful for us we double pinky swear! So it's all fine... see?" Still ok with this Trump supporters? Let's hear the rationalizations from Team Patriotism. |
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by dscott8 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:11 pm | |
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This remark highlights what is, to me at least, a tremendous problem: People who mistake loyalty to the President for loyalty to the country and the Constitution. Amazingly, many of the people who consider disloyalty to the person of Trump as "treason" (or at least unpatriotic) and the same people who spent 8 years accusing President Obama of every conspiracy fantasy they could drum up. Trump is not America, and America is not Trump. As a patriot, I feel a duty to defend the Constitution against him and a political party that constantly works to destroy the First Amendment. |
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by gcomeau » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:35 pm | |
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Indeed... bottom line is any actual patriot would be outraged and infuriated by the actions of Trump and his campaign... and yet the group of people who will jump to defend him tend to be the people who will also beat their chest loudest about how patriotic they are and unpatriotic everyone who opposes them is. |
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by cthia » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:04 pm | |
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I brake for humor...
SOMEWHERE UNDISCLOSED: BEHIND CLOSED REBULICAN DOORS "Say it!... Say it! For Christ sakes! Will. Somebody. Just. Fucking. Say It! 'WE FUCKED UP!!!' Pure and simple, 'We fucked up!' Now that we've admitted it, let's simply brush ourselves off and throw the SOB out on his ears! Let's impeach him already!" Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by biochem » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:26 pm | |
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http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/t ... either?amp |
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