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by cthia » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:24 pm | |
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Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by cthia » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:03 pm | |
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My drunken wiki informant informed me that Michelle was the one who reported Pavel's attempted rape of Honor to Commandant Hartley, though I don't rightly recollect that detail. And since I don't recall the particulars makes me question why Henke would do that w/o Honor's permission, which I'd guess she didn't have. It was a bit personal, though I know Henke did it for Honor's own good.
S'thing else on my APB list next read. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by Robert_A_Woodward » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:50 am | |
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Michelle discusses this in Chapter 4 of _The Short Victorious War_, about 3/4ths of the way in. ----------------------------
Beowulf was bad. (first sentence of Chapter VI of _Space Viking_ by H. Beam Piper) |
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by cthia » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:41 pm | |
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Thanks Robert for relaying the coordinates. I am posting it here for enjoyment, edification, archival and for the record...
Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by robert132 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:11 pm | |
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Thanks for posting this Snip cthia, I really need to go back and start reading the series again from the beginning (only done it about 5 times so far .) ****
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by Louis R » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:20 pm | |
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The parallels between Manticore and Georgian Great Britain run much deeper than just ships that engage in broadside combat behind great walls of 'gunsmoke'.
One of them is that to people like the Youngs, there is a very limited range of acceptable occupations for the Earl and his heir: politics and/or government, Crown service or, just maybe, the Law. But most certainly not, you may be sure, busying themselves with the source of their wealth. Having a wastrel layabout for an heir wouldn't really be an acceptable option for Dmitri, so employment is a necessity. Politics, of course, is the Earl's preserve, and I have trouble imagining that even North Hollow could get Pavel taken on in the diplomatic service, or anywhere else where the Crown takes an interest. I'm inclined to suspect that law would be too plebian a profession in the Honorverse, but even if it wasn't the mind boggles at the thought of Pavel Young in that role, so since it appears the Youngs have a tradition of Naval service it was the Navy for him. [In Manticore, unlike Great Britain, it's the Navy that's the more prestigious Service, so it wouldn't be the Army] Dmitri's takeaway is that his heir is suitably engaged in the Crown's service while waiting his turn at the helm. [or trough, if you prefer, but don't say it where the CA can hear you]
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by cthia » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:21 am | |
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Beware. This post is rated NC-17.
Beware. This post is rated NC-17. Beware. This post is rated NC-17. Joan Rivers is gone but before she left this Earth she established that we Americans can indeed talk about our touchy and taboo subjects. Even the touchy-taboo. In that light, I'd like to peel back the foreskin of one particular topic just a bit more. How does a human happen to give up the human necessity of total privacy? Privacy sits center stage in a human's natural requirements. It is center stage to a species who are not telempaths. It is who we are. I wouldn't have wanted to be bonded in my teenage years—not my prolonged days of uninhibited impromptu incessant masturbation. Ok, I admit it. I'm a male. For the sake of conversation I'll lay it on the line. And if any male denies it in the company of a treecat, they'll simply laugh at the biggest lie they've ever heard. Treecats would fall out of trees laughing. It would be the first treecat joke to go viral throughout the species. <Did you hear the one about the humans who said they don't masturbate?> <As in don't masturbate a lot?> <With two-legs, is there a difference?> < > Don't worry guys. Women are not exactly exempt from this raw human need, as one of my friend-girls once admitted on one particular Spring Break trip to Amsterdam. "Girls do it too you know." "You do?" asked a shocked group of males? "Of course we do. I'm sure we can match you idiots stroke for stroke. Women are human too. And since we care more about who our partners are in those moments of need more so than men, what else is there for a girl to do?" I will never forget that revelation. As men, we already knew that it must be true on some level, but until we actually hear it from Victoria's mouth, it is simply Victoria's secret. Though her name wasn't Victoria. I had my hands in my pants so often I thought I'd be arrested. I seriously considered filing it as a dependent on one of my tax returns. I don't think I would have wanted to be bonded with a female treecat during those days of incessant onanism, it would have been too much embarrassment. Perhaps a male treecat would have been more of a wink, 'Eh? You understand Nimitz, I gotta go choke this thing again, it's getting another attitude.' I know that internally, treecats could care less about human sexual hang-ups. But that is not to say that our sexual hang-ups don't care about our sexual hang-ups. Remember, we are the species that has to lay the picture of our recently deceased spouse flat so that we can make out without looking at her face. The species who has to retire to another room that doesn't have a picture of Jesus hanging on the wall. A species who cannot make out in front of our spouse's picture while she's away. A species who cannot make love with our parents in the next room or simply a picture of mom staring at us. We have inherent sexual hang-ups. Is there anyone here who can honestly say they don't have at least one of these hang-ups? Take this site for instance. Which all conspires to make me entertain whether a treecat can see beforehand who has these kinds of hang-ups and who doesn't. The bonding mechanism must be filtered through some sort of treecat "voodoo," or "who do?" And if that is true it makes me think that treecats do care about human sexuality. And if it isn't filtered out ahead of time, then how is that sexual human hang-up ever dealt with by the bonded human? Human onanistic tendencies and a treecat don't seem to go hand-in-hand, pardon the pun. Certainly I am not expected to believe that Honor never masturbated, especially considering her lack of—how did Dmitri put it? Well, loosely paraphrasing—"A buck to rut between her legs."
Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by cthia » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:39 am | |
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Nice post Louis and rather interesting. It touched on and reminded me of something that I thought storyline was slowly telegraphing but it never came to pass. And it fits in with a post I had upstream where I questioned why Dmitri didn't groom Pavel for a desk job.
I always thought storyline was grooming us for Dmitri's grooming of Pavel for politics. I still don't understand why the power of the NH-Files didn't simply secure Pavel, as with Stefan, a prestigious post in the government. If anyone would have asked me, I would have pointed out that anything less than climbing the political ladder and securing real power was a waste of files. That would have broadened and intensified the Young's power base even further - might even say given them real power. As it stood, the files were only effective against certain "unfortunates." Under the circumstances surrounding the Young's and their reputation, I wonder how Stefan even managed to secure a place in the House of Lords or Minister of Trade. Was it benefit of the files somehow? Does textev give the years of activation of the files? One thing I don't understand. If my drunken wiki informant is sober this time... If that is true, why would the plan not be to recover the files for the Queen's consumption - less the bits and pieces that possibly would have derailed the government?
Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by cthia » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:50 am | |
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Epiphanous moment!
So that's why Young tried to rape her! The idiot actually thought he was doing her a favor!!!
Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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by cthia » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:24 am | |
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The cost of accosting is a price too much to pay. Ask Stefan, his brother died Young.
Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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