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by MAD-4A » Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:05 pm | |
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as for my own,
"A" - Viking long-ships "S" - USS Constitution "I" - USS Roanoke, yea, she was a failure and union, but 3 turrets on a monitor was cool, and the odd layout of the guns was interesting "P" - Brandenburg class really the first all-big-gun "Dreadnoughts" they did away with the intermediate caliber in favor of more main guns, the idea Fisher (3rd Sea Lord in-charge of new weapons at that time) would later steal. "D" - USS Wyoming, I just like those 4 twin turrets aft, great pick of her sailing through the Panama Canal showing them off. "W" - IJN Kitakami class CLTT - 40 LL Torpedoes - ineffective but just cool. "M" - I'll have to go with Albany as-well (or Chicago - similar conversion) "X" - Robotech SDF-3 -
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by Daryl » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:54 pm | |
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HMS Warrior for her innovative design but keeping a link to the past as well. HMS Jervis Bay for it's heroic crew.
Battleships are a personal favourite class - Yamato (just has to be listed), Missouri (best balanced & only one I have actually seen), Rodney (a Washington Treaty slugger who couldn't run away), and Warspite (most accurate gunnery in the RN). Fictional include - HMS Ulysses, Tardis, and Hexapuma. |
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by Dilandu » Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:08 am | |
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Well, my favorities:
A - probably none. S - a few; USS "Constitution", ottoman "Mahmudiye" I - a lot; french "Le Napoleon" (fast screw ship-of-the-line), peruvian "Huascar", russian "Piotr Veliky", british HMS "Inflexible". P - french "Marseau", french "Charles Martel", USS "Iowa" D - HMS "Tiger", austrian "Tegetgoff", USS "Nevada" W - french "Dunkerque", german "Deutchland", USS "South Dakota", italian "Littorio" & "Zara" classes. M1 - USS "Albany" (missile cruiser conversion), british "County", soviet pr.58 M2 - japanese "Atago"-class, "Ticonderoga"-class. ------------------------------
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by Dilandu » Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:11 am | |
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I once speculated about AU ramjet version of Standard missile - ultra-long range, with active radar seeker (from AIM-54), and fitted to replace "Talos" on "Albany"-class and "Long Beach"-class cruisers) RIM-68 SM-1LR, with Marquardt ramjet engine (solid-fuel sustainer) and Hercules MK 12 booster. ------------------------------
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by MAD-4A » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:55 pm | |
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Interesting, a "SeaPhoenix" hadn't thought of that. I did a redesign of the B-1, replacing the ground search radar with an AN/AWG-9 and replacing the simi-recessed Tomahawk rails with AIM-54 rails for a very-long range anti-bomber interceptor. The forward Bombay was replaced with a drop-down AU-8 Avenger and ammo and the rear bays with drop-down rails for AIM-4 or AIM-9's. 1 unit could drop an entire squadron of TU-16 or 22s by itself. -
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by MAD-4A » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:57 pm | |
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Battleship Oklahoma BB-37, a very good account of Nevada's sister https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=mgl9fqAjYTQC&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA_Desktop_US&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKTAD0930BO1&gclid=CNnglOPfgs8CFWUoMgodf_wD9A&gclsrc=ds -
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by Weird Harold » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:30 pm | |
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Why would you hamstring your "fighter" with a POS like the AIM-4? There is a very good reason that the AIM-4 is no longer in service. .
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by Dilandu » Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:28 pm | |
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Actually, there was a real suggestion of making the AIM-54 "Phoenix" a naval SAM. It was supposed to be launched from box launchers, and provide short-reaction anti-air defense in range of about 50 km - i.e. long-range (over-the-horizon ever) analogue of Sea Sparrow. But the program wasn't developed much.
Quite interesting! Sort of ultra-heavy interceptor? ------------------------------
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by Dilandu » Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:33 pm | |
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Well, let's not be too harsh about ol' Falcon. She was first-generation AAM, and - for first-generation AAM - she was quite fine. Better than early Soviet and British analogues, definitedly. But... then the "Sidewinder" came. And "Sidewinder" was a perfection. A missile so simple, elegant, and cheap, that it suddenly became possible to arm all figther aircrafts with missiles, and use them against any kind of aerial targets. Basically, the AIM-4 wasn't bad; just the AIM-9 was perfect. P.S. But IMHO, the AIR-2 Genie was the best) ------------------------------
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by Weird Harold » Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:50 pm | |
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On the F106 and F101 I suppose the Falcon was OK. On the F-4 in Vietnam, it was an unreliable, obsolete POS. If Mad4A wanted to go "old-school" in arming his fantasy, he should have gone for the Genie. At least it had the benefit of being simple -- and nuclear. .
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