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No matter what CDC comes out with the other side is going to claim foul. CDC is better off doing it's primary job rather than involving the agency in a political hot potato that is Imaginos point. Neither side can cut the agency's budget due to perceived slights or bias by either side of the gun debate/control issue.

Annachie wrote:Imaginos, perhaps you should do some research into what the CDC actually does. What their mission statement is. What their function is.

Hint, it's more than just disease.

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@Tenshania

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/01/29/sweden-to-deport-80000-refugees-n2111467

The funny thing is I recall that you disparaging the US for not taking more Muslim men into our country. First, I agreed with Trump about not taking anyone from Syria or Iraq citizens because ISSA had access to blank passports, software, and computers that could create Syrian and Iraq passports. We could not tell who was the enemy or friend. Yet you lambasted anyone who disagreed with you about Muslim immigration. Second, do you agree with deportation of the poor Muslim immigrants? Why or Why not?

I suspect you first will not answer the questions because you can not admit your wrong. Yup here comes the insults, insinuations, and attack on the messengers that you do not agree with! Time to man up and pay the Piper unless your scared!

smr wrote:@Tenshania

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/01/29/sweden-to-deport-80000-refugees-n2111467

The funny thing is I recall that you disparaging the US for not taking more Muslim men into our country. First, I agreed with Trump about not taking anyone from Syria or Iraq citizens because ISSA had access to blank passports, software, and computers that could create Syrian and Iraq passports. We could not tell who was the enemy or friend. Yet you lambasted anyone who disagreed with you about Muslim immigration. Second, do you agree with deportation of the poor Muslim immigrants? Why or Why not?

I suspect you first will not answer the questions because you can not admit your wrong. Yup here comes the insults, insinuations, and attack on the messengers that you do not agree with! Time to man up and pay the Piper unless your scared!

So Sweden is deporting 45% or 80,000 Syrian refugees, this
means they are keeping more than 80,000. How many are the US keeping, and what are the populations of the two countries?

Incidentially sorry to be a grammar nazi, but using your instead of you're grates.

Just as an aside, recent dental checks of a significant minority of immigrants claiming ages in the 14-17yr range actually show quite a large fraction of them to be 18-25.
Surely if they were indeed proper political refugees rather than economic/benefit refugees, they would not stoop to such deceptions...

If I was seeking to escape a war zone where every side was trying to kill my family and I, then I would lie and cheat to get out. Don't blame the victims.

Michael Everett wrote:Just as an aside, recent dental checks of a significant minority of immigrants claiming ages in the 14-17yr range actually show quite a large fraction of them to be 18-25.
Surely if they were indeed proper political refugees rather than economic/benefit refugees, they would not stoop to such deceptions...

Daryl wrote:If I was seeking to escape a war zone where every side was trying to kill my family and I, then I would lie and cheat to get out. Don't blame the victims.

Michael Everett wrote:Just as an aside, recent dental checks of a significant minority of immigrants claiming ages in the 14-17yr range actually show quite a large fraction of them to be 18-25.
Surely if they were indeed proper political refugees rather than economic/benefit refugees, they would not stoop to such deceptions...

I'll agree there. BUT the fact I find the most suspicious is that they are mostly men between 15 and 55. Who would you want to get out of a warzone? I'd get the children out myself. And look at England in WWII. They evacuated the children, not the men.

But, does the refugee and economic immigrant popualation match the gender balance of the leaving countries? A quick look on wikipedia shows gender imbalances of 5 to 10% in several countries towards men, so a imbalance of 5 to 10% or so amongst the adults may be expected to match the initial poipulation...... what is the actual populational breakdown? Plus, given the cultural values placed on gender over there, we might expect a further imbalance towards men, as the men are more able to defy parents, and actually escape from some of the areas affected, with acquaintance networks that are willing and skilled to allow exit of their country.....

biochem wrote:
I'll agree there. BUT the fact I find the most suspicious is that they are mostly men between 15 and 55. Who would you want to get out of a warzone? I'd get the children out myself. And look at England in WWII. They evacuated the children, not the men.

I agree. Don't blame the victims of war for wanting a better life. Also don't blame the assault victims of the immigrants in the nation granting asylum. Furthermore, don't blame people for NOT wanting to be victimized by accepting male immigrants between 18-25 as economic refugees.

If they are political refugees, prove it.

Daryl wrote:If I was seeking to escape a war zone where every side was trying to kill my family and I, then I would lie and cheat to get out. Don't blame the victims.

Michael Everett wrote:Just as an aside, recent dental checks of a significant minority of immigrants claiming ages in the 14-17yr range actually show quite a large fraction of them to be 18-25.
Surely if they were indeed proper political refugees rather than economic/benefit refugees, they would not stoop to such deceptions...

Basically the main problem is culture shock, both ways. When guests demand you conform to their ways they are longer guests but invaders IMHO.

Poker

Well said. Totally agree. When in Rome do as the Romans.
We should help refugees, but if some abuse that, then back they go.

pokermind wrote:Basically the main problem is culture shock, both ways. When guests demand you conform to their ways they are longer guests but invaders IMHO.

Poker