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What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:25 pm

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Hey everyone...

I have been looking for the forum where the discussion of what the names translate as and cannot find it.

So; in HFQ we see a few new names in use with the PICA's so...either David or some other scholar of Welsh PLEASE let the rest of us know... What is in the name :?
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by PeterZ   » Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:57 pm

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C. O. Thompson wrote:Hey everyone...

I have been looking for the forum where the discussion of what the names translate as and cannot find it.

So; in HFQ we see a few new names in use with the PICA's so...either David or some other scholar of Welsh PLEASE let the rest of us know... What is in the name :?


Dagyr Cudd - Hidden Dagger
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by ksandgren   » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:04 pm

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Peter answers one of the new names, but Nimue uses another for the shorter Seijin that is also Welsh.
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by Stormy   » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:43 pm

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Ganieda is Merlin's half sister in Arthurian legend and the last name, which I don't presently have before me and can't remember how to spell, is Welsh for something like "Shaded" or "Shadowed" so that short seijin's name means something like Shadowed Sister.

I'm sure this was discussed, but I don't remember and can't figure it out for myself, what does the name Chwaeriau mean? Wasn't able to find that one. And if I'm remembering right, Athrawes means teacher, right? And the Mab name is something like Avenging Son, right?

I was trying to total up what they all meant and not sure my memory is right ...
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by Iorwerth   » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:10 pm

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Hello (Shwmae)

Athrawes is the feminine form of teacher, appropriate given although Merlin appears male, Nimue is a woman.
Dialydd Mab can translate as avenging son
Yr Alban is Welsh for Scotland.
Chwaer is sister in Welsh, iau is junior or younger; perhaps little sister
Ganieda is a sorceress / witch and Merlin's half sister; Cysgodol is shadow.
Dagr is dagger and Cudd is hidden

Merlin Athrawes = Merlin the teacher
Dialydd Mab = Avenging son
Nimue Alban = Nimue the Scot
Nimue Chwaeriau = Nimue's little sister
Ganieda Cysgodol = Shadow Witch or Shadow Sister
Dagyr Cudd = Hidden Dagger

Diolch yn fawr iawn

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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by Stormy   » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:15 pm

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Iorwerth wrote:Hello (Shwmae)

Athrawes is the feminine form of teacher, appropriate given although Merlin appears male, Nimue is a woman.
Dialydd Mab can translate as avenging son
Yr Alban is Welsh for Scotland.
Chwaer is sister in Welsh, iau is junior or younger; perhaps little sister
Ganieda is a sorceress / witch and Merlin's half sister; Cysgodol is shadow.
Dagr is dagger and Cudd is hidden

Merlin Athrawes = Merlin the teacher
Dialydd Mab = Avenging son
Nimue Alban = Nimue the Scot
Nimue Chwaeriau = Nimue's little sister
Ganieda Cysgodol = Shadow Witch or Shadow Sister
Dagyr Cudd = Hidden Dagger

Diolch yn fawr iawn

Iorwerth


Thanks!
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:34 am

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Iorwerth wrote:Hello (Shwmae)

Athrawes is the feminine form of teacher, appropriate given although Merlin appears male, Nimue is a woman.
Dialydd Mab can translate as avenging son
Yr Alban is Welsh for Scotland.
Chwaer is sister in Welsh, iau is junior or younger; perhaps little sister
Ganieda is a sorceress / witch and Merlin's half sister; Cysgodol is shadow.
Dagr is dagger and Cudd is hidden

Merlin Athrawes = Merlin the teacher
Dialydd Mab = Avenging son
Nimue Alban = Nimue the Scot
Nimue Chwaeriau = Nimue's little sister
Ganieda Cysgodol = Shadow Witch or Shadow Sister
Dagyr Cudd = Hidden Dagger

Diolch yn fawr iawn

Iorwerth



Iorwerth,

I am up to page 240 (ish) and so far you covered the names I came across... Thank you 1,000,000

If there are others, Please let those of us who lost touch with our Celtic roots and the language that our ancestors spoke. Although mine were from Scotland and Ireland and I guess there could be some Celtic mix in the Swedish what with all the <<ahem> :oops: > blind dates with the girls from the other side of the North Sea :twisted: back in the days of the Vikings.
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by Henry Brown   » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:37 pm

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Iorwerth wrote:Hello (Shwmae)

Athrawes is the feminine form of teacher, appropriate given although Merlin appears male, Nimue is a woman.
Dialydd Mab can translate as avenging son
Yr Alban is Welsh for Scotland.
Chwaer is sister in Welsh, iau is junior or younger; perhaps little sister
Ganieda is a sorceress / witch and Merlin's half sister; Cysgodol is shadow.
Dagr is dagger and Cudd is hidden

Merlin Athrawes = Merlin the teacher
Dialydd Mab = Avenging son
Nimue Alban = Nimue the Scot
Nimue Chwaeriau = Nimue's little sister
Ganieda Cysgodol = Shadow Witch or Shadow Sister
Dagyr Cudd = Hidden Dagger

Diolch yn fawr iawn

Iorwerth


Awesome! Thanks.
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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by Iorwerth   » Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:57 am

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Henry Brown wrote:
Awesome! Thanks.


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Re: What is in a name? as used by PICA's
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:32 am

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Iorwerth wrote:Hello (Shwmae)

Athrawes is the feminine form of teacher, appropriate given although Merlin appears male, Nimue is a woman.
Dialydd Mab can translate as avenging son
Yr Alban is Welsh for Scotland.
Chwaer is sister in Welsh, iau is junior or younger; perhaps little sister
Ganieda is a sorceress / witch and Merlin's half sister; Cysgodol is shadow.
Dagr is dagger and Cudd is hidden

Merlin Athrawes = Merlin the teacher
Dialydd Mab = Avenging son
Nimue Alban = Nimue the Scot
Nimue Chwaeriau = Nimue's little sister
Ganieda Cysgodol = Shadow Witch or Shadow Sister
Dagyr Cudd = Hidden Dagger

Diolch yn fawr iawn

Iorwerth


Again... thank you this is fantastic!
Does any part of the name Merlin used when he went to visit the Army of Justice have any hidden meaning?
Just my 2 ₡ worth
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