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Re: Light bulb Captured Solly fleet
Post by n7axw   » Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:58 pm

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I live in Viborg SD. We have a small hospital in a town of 850 people. In the event of an accident the first stop is the local hospital. In the event that the situation is beyond what the locals can cope with, the Helicoptor is summoned from Sioux Falls, about 20 minutes via chopper away to airlift the patient to Sanford Medical, a major trauma center. Further, we are not unique. Lots of small hospitals out here wait longer than that.

I do believe that this is known as a "two stage" system of treating trauma. Not different than what Weird Harold is proposing, I don't think.

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Re: Light bulb Captured Solly fleet
Post by kzt   » Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:35 pm

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I suspect that in a lot of cases they go direct to the trauma center. We get a lot of helicopters here, and they come mostly direct from the scene. Some come from other facilities, but the things a trauma patient needs that can't be done in an ambulance are blood and surgery. Blood without surgery is usually just temporizing. A small hospital can't get an emergency surgical team ready faster then a helicopter can fly them 20 minutes.
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Re: Light bulb Captured Solly fleet
Post by saber964   » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:14 pm

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To my mind, if you want to do a real world analog. The RMN/GSN would be the equivalent of the USN/RN at the end of WWII. The RHN would be equal to mid WWII at about 1943. The SLN however would be at a technology level of 1900.

Here is the differences
SLN
USS IOWA commissioned 1896
Main guns 12in max range 12,000 yds
Speed 17 kn
Fire control spotting tops

RMN
USS IOWA commissioned 1943
Main guns 16in max range 42,000 yds
Speed 33 kn
Fire Control anolog computer with FC Radar
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Re: Light bulb Captured Solly fleet
Post by Relax   » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:19 pm

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saber964 wrote:To my mind, if you want to do a real world analog. The RMN/GSN would be the equivalent of the USN/RN at the end of WWII. The RHN would be equal to mid WWII at about 1943. The SLN however would be at a technology level of 1900.

Here is the differences
SLN
USS IOWA commissioned 1896
Main guns 12in max range 12,000 yds
Speed 17 kn
Fire control spotting tops

RMN
USS IOWA commissioned 1943
Main guns 16in max range 42,000 yds
Speed 33 kn
Fire Control anolog computer with FC Radar


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Re: Light bulb Captured Solly fleet
Post by n7axw   » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:15 pm

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kzt wrote:I suspect that in a lot of cases they go direct to the trauma center. We get a lot of helicopters here, and they come mostly direct from the scene. Some come from other facilities, but the things a trauma patient needs that can't be done in an ambulance are blood and surgery. Blood without surgery is usually just temporizing. A small hospital can't get an emergency surgical team ready faster then a helicopter can fly them 20 minutes.


I do happen to know that in crash and burn cases the primary role of our little hospital is to stablize in preparation for the trip to Sioux Falls.

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Re: Honorverse series, the future..?
Post by Rakhmamort   » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:51 pm

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Weird Harold wrote:
Rakhmamort wrote:Are you saying that the people being given these equipment too dumb to clear some rooms so the can use the equipment right away while a new wing is being built to house them permanently?


Who or what do you displace to make temporary room for the equipment?

How much down time is required to move the equipment -- double that for your plan.


Why do you keep insisting that crewing and moving an SD from paroled POWs, providing officers and gaolers for them, is going to be faster than just taking out the equipment and transporting them to a planet for installation?

Remember Khumalo's flagship is an old design. It has a lot of capable Manticoran crewmen capable of removing the said equipment from those SDs. Since it's just floating around in Spindle, I'm quite sure it can spare half a dozen or so teams to perform the disassembly and packaging.

I have 3 trivial steps. Removal, transport and installation of said equipment. None of my steps require more than 2 dozen people per set of equipment per SD.

Yours on the other hand requires a lot of manpower. From officers for the skeleton crew to gaolers for the POWs. For old style SDs, that would mean at least a hundred people per SD if not more. None of the steps in this is trivial at all. Parole, treecat, detaching guards, detaching officers who could be doing other important duty, supplying the ships, feeding your crew etc.
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Re: Honorverse series, the future..?
Post by Weird Harold   » Thu May 01, 2014 12:45 am

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Rakhmamort wrote:Why do you keep insisting that crewing and moving an SD ...


Duh!

Because the premise of the thread is "what do you do with the captured ships other than salvage and scrap?"

Your solution is, "salvage and scrap."
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Re: Honorverse series, the future..?
Post by MaxxQ   » Thu May 01, 2014 12:50 am

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Weird Harold wrote:
Rakhmamort wrote:Why do you keep insisting that crewing and moving an SD ...


Duh!

Because the premise of the thread is "what do you do with the captured ships other than salvage and scrap?"

Your solution is, "salvage and scrap."


In that case, the thread should be locked, because aside from salvage and scrap (and targets), there's *nothing* else that Sollie SDs are good for.
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Re: Honorverse series, the future..?
Post by Weird Harold   » Thu May 01, 2014 1:06 am

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MaxxQ wrote:In that case, the thread should be locked, because ...


By that logic, most of the threads in these forums should be locked because almost nothing suggested is practical or even possible. :roll:
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Re: Honorverse series, the future..?
Post by Rakhmamort   » Thu May 01, 2014 2:14 am

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Weird Harold wrote:
Rakhmamort wrote:Why do you keep insisting that crewing and moving an SD ...


Duh!

Because the premise of the thread is "what do you do with the captured ships other than salvage and scrap?"

Your solution is, "salvage and scrap."


lol! you don't need to insist that your suggestion is easier to do than the alternatives that have been pointed out. you keep saying that the alternatives are inferior to your hospital ship idea instead of simply admitting that it's far from being the best investment of resources but according to the title we have to use the whole SD.
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