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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by SWM   » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:32 am

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We should probably move the economic balance topic to a separate thread. I'm making such a thread now.
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by NortonIDaughter   » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:54 am

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Reminded of this one on another thread... the old Sphinx saying: The Crown rules only in consultation with the 'cats.
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:51 am

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NortonIDaughter wrote:Reminded of this one on another thread... the old Sphinx saying: The Crown rules only in consultation with the 'cats.

:lol: Why does this tickle my funny bone? Could it be because it reminds me of a common Old Earth phrase that my mom always used on my father? A phrase that has been adopted and evolved?

Behind every successful man stands a woman in consultation.


Atop every successful ruler sits a treecat bleeking.

and back from our sponsors...

I totally forgot the promise I made to my niece that we'd begin Changer of Worlds. So I have. And right off the bat a phrase that has always tickled my fancy. It could probably stand on its own as our first half-liner, but I'll include the entire line anyway.
There was an athletic grace to her carriage and an apparent assurance at odds with her youth, and she avoided collisions with ease as she made her way through the people filling the gallery, almost as if she were performing some sort of free-form dance.


I can already see a similar round of gratitude is due for all who alerted me that another huge hole existed in my Honorverse.

I shall mend yon gaping hole immediately ye sires and squires!

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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:17 am

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Had that been all Shelton had been able to discern about her, he would probably have put her down (provisionally and a bit hopefully) as somewhat above the average of the young gentlemen and ladies senior Navy noncoms were expected to transform from pigs' ears into silk purses.

Changer of Worlds Honor as a snotty.

Honorestly, sometimes I wonder about the kinds of things hypering in and out of RFC's head.

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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:08 am

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For a few more seconds he allowed himself to hope that she might walk right past War Maiden to the ship she actually sought, or that she might be lost. But any possibility of dodging the pulser dart faded as she walked straight over to the heavy cruiser's tube.

Ok, another glaringly gaping ghastly gap in my understanding.

I travel frequently. This passage reminds me of walking through airport terminals. But something seems out of sync. Airplanes are nowhere near the size of Superdreadnaughts. In fact they are nowhere near the size of Heavy Cruisers, which is War Maiden. Yet in airports--LAX and London Heathrow, UK, quickly comes to mind--the terminals are huge, and one doesn't merely walk from one slip to another, one...hikes! Or, if available (yea right) one rides the motorized carts. Yet this passage implies that the abutting of such huge ships are fairly close. Closer even than what can be managed of a 727 jumbo jet. How can this be? Considering the size of Heavy Cruisers and other considerations, it seems that Honor would have had to ride to the next ship's slip.

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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by Werrf   » Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:18 am

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cthia wrote:Ok, another glaringly gaping ghastly gap in my understanding.

I travel frequently. This passage reminds me of walking through airport terminals. But something seems out of sync. Airplanes are nowhere near the size of Superdreadnaughts. In fact they are nowhere near the size of Heavy Cruisers, which is War Maiden. Yet in airports--LAX and London Heathrow, UK, quickly comes to mind--the terminals are huge, and one doesn't merely walk from one slip to another, one...hikes! Or, if available (yea right) one rides the motorized carts. Yet this passage implies that the abutting of such huge ships are fairly close. Closer even than what can be managed of a 727 jumbo jet. How can this be? Considering the size of Heavy Cruisers and other considerations, it seems that Honor would have had to ride to the next ship's slip.

I doubt there's just an open hallway between each boarding slip. Even in a terminal, there are all kinds of facilities around each gate - shops, bathrooms and the like. Each boarding slip probably has all kinds of other facilities around it to make use of the space that otherwise would be wasted. He's probably hoping she's walking to one of those facilities, or from one of them to a transport tube or what have you.
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:23 am

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Werrf wrote:
cthia wrote:Ok, another glaringly gaping ghastly gap in my understanding.

I travel frequently. This passage reminds me of walking through airport terminals. But something seems out of sync. Airplanes are nowhere near the size of Superdreadnaughts. In fact they are nowhere near the size of Heavy Cruisers, which is War Maiden. Yet in airports--LAX and London Heathrow, UK, quickly comes to mind--the terminals are huge, and one doesn't merely walk from one slip to another, one...hikes! Or, if available (yea right) one rides the motorized carts. Yet this passage implies that the abutting of such huge ships are fairly close. Closer even than what can be managed of a 727 jumbo jet. How can this be? Considering the size of Heavy Cruisers and other considerations, it seems that Honor would have had to ride to the next ship's slip.

I doubt there's just an open hallway between each boarding slip. Even in a terminal, there are all kinds of facilities around each gate - shops, bathrooms and the like. Each boarding slip probably has all kinds of other facilities around it to make use of the space that otherwise would be wasted. He's probably hoping she's walking to one of those facilities, or from one of them to a transport tube or what have you.


Perhaps you're correct. Intuitively it doesn't seem so. Heavy cruisers are huge in comparison to even a 747. This same statement, if I correctly remember applied to superdreadnaughts as well. It just doesn't intuitively appear that such huge ships can be arranged in walking distance of one another at a space station.

One distinction in favor of its possibility is the fact that here, on land, planes have to adhere to two-dimensional arrangement, without benefit of the use of the x, y, and z axis...but still, we're talking huge ships. Shops don't take up that much space. And even in the huge airports I mentioned these shops tend to be rather small and specialized.

Perhaps there are conveyor-belt-like transports ferrying one to different slips.

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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by cthia   » Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:35 am

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Still, he had to wonder if someone who sounded as young as she looked would ever be able to generate a proper snap of command.

What was that saying about never judging a book by its cover?...

And apparently, a girl by her lack of lipstick.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by Amaroq   » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:45 pm

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Still, he had to wonder if someone who sounded as young as she looked would ever be able to generate a proper snap of command.


Well I guess she wound up not having too much trouble with that after all...

I have a new one! From SoS and the Battle of Monica:

His people were doing their best, but seven weeks of combined simulator and hands-on training wasn't enough. It wasn't second nature to them, wasn't instinctive. The slight hesitation in their responses, the friction in the decision loops, might not have been apparent against another Verge navy. But he didn't face another Verge navy. He faced the Royal Manticoran Navy, and that was a mistake few survived.


I also love to hear about how bada$$ the RMN is from an outside perspective.
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Re: Honorverse favorite one-liners
Post by Hutch   » Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:53 pm

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Haven't been keeping up with my weekly quota, so here is one of those 'tearing up' lines (fair warning), this one from In Enemy Hands:

...and then Venizelos was down on one knee, and the last thing she ever saw of him he was firing steadily, calmly, like a man picking off targets in a gallery, covering her retreat while she ran and left him to die.
I am of the opinion of all of the people whose death's she feels on her conscience, Andreas Venizelos is second only to Andrew LaFollett.

And then he saw Shannon Foraker's right hand come out of her lap and move slowly, almost stealthily, towards her panel. Something about its movement caught at his attention, and he crossed quietly to stand behind her. She heard him and looked up, and her hand moved away from the "ERASE" key even more slowly—and far more reluctantly—than it had come.

Tourville gazed down over her shoulder at the tactical recording she'd been replaying, and his jaw clenched as he saw what she'd seen: two pieces of wreckage, larger than most of the others, and on a vector which had clearly taken them away from the murdered battlecruiser before she exploded. A vector which just happened to look very much like an unpowered reentry course.

He looked at them for another long moment, rubbing his fierce mustache with one finger. Shannon's drone had seen them, but it was highly unlikely Hades' EMP-blinded sensors had picked them up in time, and with the destruction of the "fleeing" pinnace, no one would even think to look for them. He felt a deep flicker of admiration for whoever had thought this one up, but he knew what his duty required of him.

Yes, I know what "duty" requires, he thought, and reached down past Shannon's shoulder to press his own finger firmly on the "ERASE" key. He heard Shannon inhale sharply, saw her head twitch, but she didn't say a word, and he turned away from her panel. He walked across to where Honeker and Bogdanovich stood, both still staring in awe at the visual imagery of the spreading pattern of wreckage relayed by Shannon's drone, and cleared his throat.

"Too bad," he said gravely, and the sound of his voice startled Honeker into turning to look at him. "There can't be any survivors," Tourville told his commissioner, and shook his head regretfully. "Too bad . . . Lady Harrington deserved better than that."


I believe that is known as a 'Big Damn Heroes' moment.
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