Topic Actions

Topic Search

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: alj_sf, Henry Brown, Louis R, PeterZ, Tararoys and 14 guests

Zhermo Hyggyns - how to read his name

This fascinating series is a combination of historical seafaring, swashbuckling adventure, and high technological science-fiction. Join us in a discussion!
Zhermo Hyggyns - how to read his name
Post by isaac_newton   » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:11 pm

isaac_newton
Commodore

Posts: 816
Joined: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:37 am
Location: Brighton, UK

Most of RFCs characters safeholdian names have a [fairly] obvious standard english equivalent.

Hyggyns is fine, but Zhermo???

any insights into what this might be?
Top
Re: Zhermo Hyggyns - how to read his name
Post by Fiannawolf   » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:17 pm

Fiannawolf
Lieutenant (Junior Grade)

Posts: 34
Joined: Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:25 am

And that's one of the reasons I don't give any of the audio narrators a hard time about pronunciations. XD

But yeah, lets see what it would sound like in Microsoft Sam Voice....hmmm....

Zhermo....
Zermo.
Hermo.
Ermo.

Horatio where for art thou? XD
Top
Re: Zhermo Hyggyns - how to read his name
Post by PeterZ   » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:41 pm

PeterZ
Fleet Admiral

Posts: 6118
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:11 pm
Location: Colorado

Fiannawolf wrote:And that's one of the reasons I don't give any of the audio narrators a hard time about pronunciations. XD

But yeah, lets see what it would sound like in Microsoft Sam Voice....hmmm....

Zhermo....
Zermo.
Hermo.
Ermo.

Horatio where for art thou? XD


I'm seeing a phonetic drift from Guillermo. So the pronounciation is closer to jermo with the j more like the French pronounciation of jean.
Top
Re: Zhermo Hyggyns - how to read his name
Post by isaac_newton   » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:46 pm

isaac_newton
Commodore

Posts: 816
Joined: Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:37 am
Location: Brighton, UK

PeterZ wrote:
Fiannawolf wrote:And that's one of the reasons I don't give any of the audio narrators a hard time about pronunciations. XD

But yeah, lets see what it would sound like in Microsoft Sam Voice....hmmm....

Zhermo....
Zermo.
Hermo.
Ermo.

Horatio where for art thou? XD


I'm seeing a phonetic drift from Guillermo. So the pronounciation is closer to jermo with the j more like the French pronounciation of jean.


ah - that sounds distinctly plausible... sort of goes with the banker Fernandez [if I have that right]
Top
Re: Zhermo Hyggyns - how to read his name
Post by ecortez   » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:57 am

ecortez
Lieutenant (Senior Grade)

Posts: 58
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:13 pm

PeterZ wrote:I'm seeing a phonetic drift from Guillermo. So the pronounciation is closer to jermo with the j more like the French pronounciation of jean.



I was just waiting for that guy to suggest building a wall and making Charis pay for it. :D


Your theory is about the only one that fits. At least I've never heard a name pronounced any closer to "Zhermo". You'd expect there to be a few uniquely Safeholdian names though, with no direct equivalent in Terran English.
Top
Re: Zhermo Hyggyns - how to read his name
Post by FriarBob   » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:22 pm

FriarBob
Rear Admiral

Posts: 1015
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:29 pm

ecortez wrote:
PeterZ wrote:I'm seeing a phonetic drift from Guillermo. So the pronounciation is closer to jermo with the j more like the French pronounciation of jean.



I was just waiting for that guy to suggest building a wall and making Charis pay for it. :D


You'll be waiting a very long time. Not because Weber supports him. You and I alike have *NO* clue which (if any) recent president Weber supports, because he's careful -- and smart -- enough to not piss off potential buyers of his books by making parallels to super-recent political hay.

Given how sneaky he is I probably shouldn't say 'never', but tough, I'm saying it anyway. You will never see any walls in his books, neither in a positive OR negative light. Or TARP-style bailouts. Or (probably) any reference to a 'coalition of the willing'. And odds are extremely high you won't ever hear about blue dresses or cigars either. (In part because he clearly thought -- mistakenly -- that their day was over when he named his Grand Inquisitor.)

You *might* get someone tripping falling off a train car. That is far enough in the past he might well use it. Ditto something about a peanut farmer or a former actor. Especially among those who are now 'safely' dead and therefore simply cannot have a political resurrection. But it's FAR more likely he'll restrict himself to parallels to people from the timeframe of FDR/Churchill/Hitler/Mussolini/Stalin/etc and/or earlier even than that.
Top
Re: Zhermo Hyggyns - how to read his name
Post by jtg452   » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:16 pm

jtg452
Captain (Junior Grade)

Posts: 353
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:46 pm

PeterZ wrote:
Fiannawolf wrote:And that's one of the reasons I don't give any of the audio narrators a hard time about pronunciations. XD

But yeah, lets see what it would sound like in Microsoft Sam Voice....hmmm....

Zhermo....
Zermo.
Hermo.
Ermo.

Horatio where for art thou? XD


I'm seeing a phonetic drift from Guillermo. So the pronounciation is closer to jermo with the j more like the French pronounciation of jean.

I figured it was a drift of Guillermo, too, but I'm bad about coming up with something 'close enough' (Guillermo in this case) on the spur of the moment while I'm reading and just moving on. The true pronunciation of the name doesn't have an impact on the story, so I don't really care.
Top
Re: Zhermo Hyggyns - how to read his name
Post by ecortez   » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:05 am

ecortez
Lieutenant (Senior Grade)

Posts: 58
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:13 pm

FriarBob wrote:You'll be waiting a very long time. Not because Weber supports him. You and I alike have *NO* clue which (if any) recent president Weber supports, because he's careful -- and smart -- enough to not piss off potential buyers of his books by making parallels to super-recent political hay.


You're taking my smartass remark more seriously than it was intended. Yes, there are parallels between the situation in Siddarmark and real world political events of the past fifteen years, but then ... we humans do have a tendency to make the same mistakes over and over. Profiteers and power hungry leaders taking advantage of a crisis is as old as civilization. US history alone provides numerous examples of this. Not to mention well intentioned foreign policy initiatives that only made things worse, which we also see them struggling with in TFT.
Top
Re: Zhermo Hyggyns - how to read his name
Post by PeterZ   » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:23 am

PeterZ
Fleet Admiral

Posts: 6118
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:11 pm
Location: Colorado

ecortez wrote:
FriarBob wrote:You'll be waiting a very long time. Not because Weber supports him. You and I alike have *NO* clue which (if any) recent president Weber supports, because he's careful -- and smart -- enough to not piss off potential buyers of his books by making parallels to super-recent political hay.


You're taking my smartass remark more seriously than it was intended. Yes, there are parallels between the situation in Siddarmark and real world political events of the past fifteen years, but then ... we humans do have a tendency to make the same mistakes over and over. Profiteers and power hungry leaders taking advantage of a crisis is as old as civilization. US history alone provides numerous examples of this. Not to mention well intentioned foreign policy initiatives that only made things worse, which we also see them struggling with in TFT.

My take was FB making an overly serious response to encourage keeping politics in politics. That forum is replete with folks who wish to argue politics. The rest of these forums are for we who want to argue about the books. If history comes into play, well the books are RFC's commentary on history so are fair game.
Top
Re: Zhermo Hyggyns - how to read his name
Post by FriarBob   » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:23 pm

FriarBob
Rear Admiral

Posts: 1015
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:29 pm

PeterZ wrote:My take was FB making an overly serious response to encourage keeping politics in politics. That forum is replete with folks who wish to argue politics. The rest of these forums are for we who want to argue about the books. If history comes into play, well the books are RFC's commentary on history so are fair game.


Got it in one.
Top

Return to Safehold