Bruno Behrends wrote:ywing14 wrote:I think Schueler changed like Saint Khody during the war of the fallen. I think he realized as it went on that he was on the wrong side. I find it likely when Khody came to him that was the final nail in the coffin but he realized it was too late to make any changes then.
I admit I have entertained that idea myself.
We don't know this happened though. That's because for all we know Schueler really was on the 'wrong' side. And when Khody came to him Khody was killed. That doesn't really give us much to work with where a sudden Saulus-to-Paulus conversion by Schueler is concerned.
It is still possible of course. Theoretically. But 'likely' as you say? Uh. With this scant evidence - lack of evidence actually - I don't feel comfortable with using that word. Nevertheless I agree we should keep it in mind as a possibility.
I have been thinking the Schueler key could turn out to be another hint here. ( If Schueler turns out to have left it with the Wylson family to undermine the church and not for another reason that is.) But we don't know why he did it yet. So that too is pure speculation and no evidence at this point.
To all of you who think this 'Schueler appearance' would be too risky for the Inner Circle to be behind it:
I remind you that Nahrmahn and Merlin have a discussion about this point in chapter 1 of the book. Indeed the first sentence of the first chapter of the book is about this very topic! Your objections are looked at and adressed there in detail. Yes, the conclusion remains open in chapter 1. That's because those are valid objections. But think about why these objections are discussed there in the first place! Why discuss them if the IC was not at least thinking about a plan that would - have those objections - you know - come up?
Isn't it rather telling that the first chapter goes into the reasoning - and the risk - inherent in the 'Nahrmahn Plan' while the last chapter contains what seems to be the start of the execution of said plan? Like an alphabet: starting with A. Ending with Z.
I mean, really: in literature books have a beginning and an end and both usually have something to do with each other. And the in-between is the story of how to get from that starting point to that end point.
And you want to tell me it is 'unlikely' that ending really is the ending that was set up throughout the book and discussed in the first chapter? Huh.
I mean I can't of course 100% disprove you. But every clue in the book (and there are quite a lot of them as I already recounted upthread so forgive me that I am not recounting them here all over again) points to this Androcles Schueler apparition really being the Androcles operation Sharleyan and Cayleb authorized one chapter before.
You can't even 50% disprove me. I'm not saying you couldn't be right I'm merely stating that don't think this was part of their plan. We know from some of the context clues about the war of the fallen that there were some individuals who were highly placed within the command staff. Schueler himself could very well have been that individual. Just because Khody went to see him and didn't return doesn't mean Schueler was responsible for his fate.
There could be plenty of things that were objectionable in the 'Nahrmahn Plan'. Doesn't mean this is it. However, I'll freely admit you could be right. Sucks that unless RFC tells us we'll have to wait like 18-24 months to find out.