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Re: Dirigible **guided** bombing
Post by phillies   » Thu May 14, 2020 1:16 pm

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What is the problem with Christianity here? At the start of World War II for the United States, many Americans were delighted to hear about the (mythical) American pilot who flew his aircraft down the smokestack of a Japanese battleship into the ammunition compartment, detonating the ammunition and sinking the battleship Haruna.

The event, as it happens, did not occur. The BB Haruna lasted more or less until the end of the war. Readers should not try this with real aircraft that they are piloting. Battleships are not built that way.

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after a quick search through the series, looks like I'm wrong, nothing mentioned against suicide by the Church in Safehold that I can find!
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Yep. So the Safeholdians probably did not have European aversion to the idea of deliberate sacrifice for noble purpose. Which means, that if things went really bad, Charisians would not have much problem asking for volunteers, capable of guiding bomb to the end.

P.S. Actually, it may be quite... interesting plot element. Especially for Merlin, who is Christian. It would be really interesting to see, say, Cayleb & Merlin beliefs really clashes, because Cayleb would not see anything particularly outrageous with the idea of voluntary kamikaze (if the situation is dire enough, of course), but for Merlin it actually WOULD be outrageous.
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Re: Dirigible **guided** bombing
Post by doug941   » Thu May 14, 2020 6:36 pm

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[quote="phillies"]What is the problem with Christianity here? At the start of World War II for the United States, many Americans were delighted to hear about the (mythical) American pilot who flew his aircraft down the smokestack of a Japanese battleship into the ammunition compartment, detonating the ammunition and sinking the battleship Haruna.

The event, as it happens, did not occur. The BB Haruna lasted more or less until the end of the war. Readers should not try this with real aircraft that they are piloting. Battleships are not built that way.

That's saying it mildly. There is a famous photo taken less than 1 second before a Japanese pilot flew his Zero into the side of the Missouri. The plane's 250kg bomb did not go off but it's fuel started a small fire which was soon put out. The plane itself put a small dent into the side of the hull, which is still there today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0pGhHq6OqE
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Re: Dirigible **guided** bombing
Post by Loren Pechtel   » Fri May 15, 2020 9:13 pm

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phillies wrote:What is the problem with Christianity here? At the start of World War II for the United States, many Americans were delighted to hear about the (mythical) American pilot who flew his aircraft down the smokestack of a Japanese battleship into the ammunition compartment, detonating the ammunition and sinking the battleship Haruna.

The event, as it happens, did not occur. The BB Haruna lasted more or less until the end of the war. Readers should not try this with real aircraft that they are piloting. Battleships are not built that way.


There was one US kamikaze in WWII that I'm aware of--but it wasn't some great hero. Rather, his plane was damaged and he wasn't going to make it home. If he lumped the only possible rescue would be the Japanese and it would be unlikely they would stop for him. Since the best option was POW camp and the most likely was death anyway, he went for the clean death and hope to take the enemy with him.

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if it got amplified in the retelling.
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