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Re: New Books
Post by NervousEnergy   » Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:28 am

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MrZero wrote:Weber said that there would be no Gbaba in Safehold. (of course that was years ago now) So as long as they aren't digging up crashed ufos at the north pole or something like that, the series is going to end after reaching space. I am one of those readers who think that there's a lot for the Safeholdians to do after and around that time, without dropping the exact situation the Dhak novels spelled out for the suddenly-outdated people of Earth. Ships are outdated when compared to the raikurai and the skimmers, but that doesn't mean that they have enough of the advanced stuff to get the fishing done. Or search all that wreckage they've been putting in the oceans for the past few years. With the Stone of Schuler looking like a rock, there's a lot of inconspicuous things on a wrecked warship of the gentry to go through. In sci-fi people always handwave the part where building the spaceships means filling up the pantry- or the biodomes of the (other planet name)-base.


Once the Safeholdians get into space, the story that makes Safehold a unique series is basically over. That is, the continuing story would then turn into some kind of 'The Honor of Safehold' space battles and politics series, so why would RFC want to write it? He could write a very similar story set in the Honorverse, and earn more for it...

It is possible there's another tech cache hidden away, maybe on that big moon that keeps irritating me and which I went on about so much I managed to also irritate RFC. :lol: If Safeholdians do get into space, the Langhorne Plan has failed, so someone other than Shan-Wei might have stashed a 'Gbaba for Dummies' and 'Mighty Space Warships For Beginners' in a place the Safeholdians could reasonably get to in a fairly primitive spaceship. Not a UFO at the North Pole, more a Big Obelisk on the Moon. :D

Personally I've always preferred he write another grand space opera in the The Excalibur Alternative universe. Pretty much the same story, but the Acchultani/Gbaba are, IMHO, boring adversaries. Monolithic has been done to death, and it would be hard to beat the Bugs as an antagonist.

The Federation has a huge cast of both bad guys and oppressed, potentially allied worlds/species, making for a much more interesting series of space opera stories that are more than just massive lines clashing and trying to utterly exterminate each other. Probably never happen, but I think that universe is even more rich for space opera tales than the Honorverse.
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Re: New Books
Post by Louis R   » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:38 pm

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Technically, that's not Himself's sandbox to play in.

The setting and basic scenario was created by David Drake in Ranks of Bronze, and while I have no reason to think he disliked where RfC took it, there may well be a reason beyond sales why there's been no further mention of it. And if the reason _is_ sales, then it's dead in the water - if those gents can't sell a story nobody can.

NervousEnergy wrote:Personally I've always preferred he write another grand space opera in the The Excalibur Alternative universe. Pretty much the same story, but the Acchultani/Gbaba are, IMHO, boring adversaries. Monolithic has been done to death, and it would be hard to beat the Bugs as an antagonist.

The Federation has a huge cast of both bad guys and oppressed, potentially allied worlds/species, making for a much more interesting series of space opera stories that are more than just massive lines clashing and trying to utterly exterminate each other. Probably never happen, but I think that universe is even more rich for space opera tales than the Honorverse.
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Re: New Books
Post by Dilandu   » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:10 am

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NervousEnergy wrote:Personally I've always preferred he write another grand space opera in the The Excalibur Alternative universe. Pretty much the same story, but the Acchultani/Gbaba are, IMHO, boring adversaries. Monolithic has been done to death, and it would be hard to beat the Bugs as an antagonist.


Well... there is small problem: RFC is quite prone to villain depletion syndrome. He usually start with pretty interesting bad guys, but by the later part of series (both Honorverse and Safehold affected), basically all interesting bad guys are either dead or switched to heroes side, and the only ones left are the utterly monstrous morons, who only able to do war crimes, massacre innocents & pillage & rape (and sometimes left you wondering "how those evil imbeciles could do even THAT MUCH without help?"). ;)
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Re: New Books
Post by pbreed   » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:45 pm

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>Excalibur Alternative
Probably my favorite Weber Novel.
I'd love to see additional books in that universe.
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Re: New Books
Post by Bahzellstudent   » Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:06 pm

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I suspect I am not alone in a) wanting RFC to live for ever and continue writing and also b) wanting closure on my most favourite series within RFS's writing.

I love the Bahzell books (obvious, I guess) - but even it his world were to be closed off in a book or three, we don't have a solution to the whole 'mega' world battle.

Whereas with Safehold, we have to solve the Safehold story - AND know how we might then take on and defeat the Gbaba
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