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Worlds outgoing from Sharona
Post by Howard T. Map-addict   » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:41 pm

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Copyright 2007 by David Weber and Linda Evans
Please see Disclaimer in my Land Places posts.
Also see those posts for place locations on Earth.
All mistakes and misunderstandings are mine.

Original World = SHARONA
Portal #1 @ Larakesh
.............//..........
Portal Exit #1 @ Union City
Outworld #1 = NEW SHARONA
Portal #2 not given
.............//..........
Exit #2 not given
Outworld #2 = HAYSAM
Portal #3 not given
.............// ..........
Exit #3 not given
Outworld #3 = REYSHAR
Portals #s 4 no locations given
....// there are 3 Portals //-//....
Exits #s4 none given
Outworlds #s 4a, 4b, both unnamed.
Outworld #4c = HAYTH
...Portals #s 5c1, 5c2 neither given ...
// there are 2 Portals // outbound from HAYTH.
Neither Exit Location is proven.
Outworld # 5c1 not named (may be "Camryn")
Outworld # 5c2 not *proven*
It might be FARYIKA, or CAMRYN, or unnamed.
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{NOTE: we are told that FARYIKA is between
HAYTH and JYRSALM. We are *not* told if it
touches either one, or both. It *probably*
touches at least one of them.}
---------------
{NOTE: we are not told if ^^^^Camryn^^^^ is
a world, or a settlement within a world.}
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Portal # 6c2 not given.
Outworld # 6c2 not *certain*
(If 5c2 is *not* FARYIKA, then 6c2 must be;)
(if 5c2 *is* FARYIKA, then 6c2 is
either JYRSALM, or unnamed.)
The Exit Location into FARYIKA,
whichever the #, is near Lake Arau.
The Portal out of FARYIKA is @ Zaithag
----------------
{NOTE: From here on the distances from SHARONA
are twice uncertain, so I shall stop trying to
number them.}
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Portal-Exit into JYRSALM not given.
JYRSALM is either next, or next-but-one,
outbound from FARYIKA.
Portal out from JYRSALM not given
.........//...........
Exit @ Fort Losaltha
SALYM (Waystations: Hurkayn, New Ramoth)
Portal @ Ft. Tharkoma
.........//...........
Exit not given (maybe Fort Galsar?)
TRAISUM (has two Exit Portals)
1st found = location not given in HG or HHNF.
..R3H.. Gives Waystations: Vankaiyar, E. Ricathia,
and Renaiyrton (Nymara), Ricathian Mblisi seaport.
Gives distance between these Portals as 10,000
miles, including a 6,000 mile Water Gap.
Chernoth, Benterian Union, New Ternath (Hays, KS)
.........//...........
Exit not given
KELSAYR
..R3H.. gives railroad to Lashai complete;
"heavy" settlements, other railroads.
not given // not given
LASHAI
..R3H.. gives "heavily inhabited ... road
and rail development ..."
" // "
RESYN
..R3H.. gives "future route of TTE's roadbed
surveyed almost to Nairsom" but
"almost totally unimproved."
" // near Lake Winipeg
NAIRSOM (see also KARYS Chain)
{NOTE: NAIRSOM has two routes with three
worlds in each route coming from TRAISUM,
forming an eight-world "loop."}
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TRAISUM second Portal
waystation Fort Salby
2nd Portal @ Traisum Cut
......... // .........
Exit @ Aeravas
KARYS
Portal Fort Mosanik @ Queriz
.......... // .........
Exit @ Judaih
FAILCHAM
Portal near Yarahk
.......... // .........
Exit Fort Raylthar @ Sky Blood Lode
THERMYN (has two Portals outgoing)
One @ Ft Brithik - Other @ unnamed fort
(Lincoln, Nebraska - Durango, Mexico)
...... // ...... -- ...... // ......
Exit not given . -- Exit 200 miles from Lincoln
NEW UROMATH .... -- .... NAIRSOM
Portal Fort Shalar -- Portal: see NOTE above
...... // ......
Exit/Portal near Great Lakes
HELL'S GATE - seven (7) Portals
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Re: Worlds outgoing from Sharona
Post by Howard T. Map-addict   » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:27 pm

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NOTE: a Portal Chain leading from Hell's Gate towards
Arcana is Mapped by Weber&Evans at the start of HHNF.

HTM

[quote="Howard T. Map-addict"]
Copyright 2007 by David Weber and Linda Evans
Please see Disclaimer in my Land Places posts.
Also see those posts for place locations on Earth.
All mistakes and misunderstandings are mine.

I would love to list the Worlds Outgoing From Arcana,
but there are too many gaps in them.

Original World = SHARONA
Portal #1 @ Larakesh
.............//..........
Portal Exit #1 @ Union City
Outworld #1 = NEW SHARONA
--------------------------------
NEW UROMATH ....
Portal Fort Shalar
...... // ......
Exit/Portal near Great Lakes
HELL'S GATE - multiple Portals
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Worlds ingoing towards Arcana (re: from Sharona)
Post by Howard T. Map-addict   » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:35 pm

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I'll list the Arcanan worlds given us in the first two books.

Data from the third book, ROAD TO HELL,
including worlds closer to Arcana,
is now in Post #5, below this Post which is #3.

^^^^might be a World, or a place on a World ^^^^
============================
portal chain on the chart in HHNF:
HELLS GATE (seven 7 Portals; Arcana's Portal-finding Spell
........... shows six of them, the maximum for that Spell.)
MAHRITHA\GHARYS
ERTHOS\ERTHUS
SANCHOLA
GARUTH
ILMARIYA
RYCARTH
, , , , , , end of HHNF chart
[two worlds not named]
ESTHIYA
Gurthik's jurisdiction begins here, per Glossary
------------
other worlds in Lamia Chain:
------
^^^^JYLAROS^^^^
several worlds
GREEN HAVEN
UCALA
MOUNTAIN SPINE
several worlds
DYSTRIA
several worlds
LAMIA beginning of chain.
-------------------------------
other Arcanan outworlds (and ^^places^^) given
without specified neighbors or locations:
------
ZHOLHARA has six Portals
^^^^SELKARA^^^^ (name of a Portal)
RYCARH
-------------------------------
NEW ARCANA
ARCANA
=====================================
Howard T. Map-addict

Howard T. Map-addict wrote:NOTE:
a Portal Chain leading from Hell's Gate towards
Arcana is Mapped by Weber&Evans at the start of HHNF.

Copyright 2007 by David Weber and Linda Evans
Please see Disclaimer in my Land Places posts.
Also see those posts for place locations on Earth.
All mistakes and misunderstandings are mine.

Original World = SHARONA
Portal #1 @ Larakesh
.............//..........
Portal Exit #1 @ Union City
Outworld #1 = NEW SHARONA
--------------------------------
several worlds
^^^^CAMRYN^^^^ Markan Brigade Base
several worlds
--------------------------------
NEW UROMATH ....
Portal Fort Shalar
...... // ......
Exit/Portal near Great Lakes
HELL'S GATE - seven (7) Portals - see above
[/quote=HTM]
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Links to other lists re: Worlds outgoing from Sharona
Post by Howard T. Map-addict   » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:27 pm

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For Places, land & water, on Sharona & Arcana,
which correspond with places on our Earth, see
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1446

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for People & Places not in Glossary/Cast List see
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3263

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for Arcana civilians and groups,
and for colleges, and for magic animals
frms .davidweber. net/vewtpc. =3245

for Sharona civilians and groups
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3242

for people sending messages by Voice, flicker, hummer
forums. davidweber. net/vipic. =3224

Note: I have combined these three threads
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threads of military people
Officers + Essay by DW (rfc) about Jasek Olderham
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3208

Officers, Enlisted, and (in last post) Casualties
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3227

Note: I have added the Officer data to the
Enlisted+Casualties thread. The old "Officer"
thread is still valuable for the essays about
Jasek and Belkar chan Tesh.
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Re: Worlds ingoing towards Arcana (re: from Sharona)
Post by Howard T. Map-addict   » Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:19 pm

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I found more data on worlds near Arcana.
For one thing, Manticore is *outbound* from Basilisk.
htm 3/16/16

Howard T. Map-addict wrote:I list the Arcanan worlds they gave us in all three books.

^^^^might be a World, or a place on a World ^^^^
============================
portal chain on the chart in HHNF:
HELLS GATE (seven 7 Portals; Arcana's Portal-finding Spell
........... shows six of them, the maximum for that Spell.)
MAHRITHA\GHARYS
ERTHOS\ERTHUS
SANCHOLA
GARUTH
ILMARIYA
RYCARTH
, , , , , , end of HHNF chart
[two worlds not named]
ESTHIYA
Gurthik's jurisdiction begins here, per Glossary
------------
other worlds in Lamia Chain:
------
^^^^JYLAROS^^^^
several worlds
GREEN HAVEN
UCALA
MOUNTAIN SPINE
several worlds
DYSTRIA
several worlds
LAMIA beginning of chain.
-------------------------------
other Arcanan outworlds (and ^^places^^) given
without specified neighbors or locations:
------
ZHOLHARA has six Portals
^^^^SELKARA^^^^ (name of a Portal)
RYCARH
-------------------------------
Worlds approching Arcana:

MANTICORE - Shaisal Air Base, Chemparas City
Chemparas Portal connects Basilisk & Manticore.
BASILISK
Theskair City Portal connects Basilisk & New Ransar.
NEW RANSAR
-- one or two worlds, probably including New Mythal. --
NEW ARCANA - Portalis City, High Commandery, etc.
ARCANA
=====================================
Howard T. Map-addict

NOTE: a Portal Chain leading from Hell's Gate towards
Arcana is Mapped by Weber&Evans at the start of HHNF.

HTM

Howard T. Map-addict wrote:Copyright 2007 by David Weber and Linda Evans
Please see Disclaimer in my Land Places posts.
Also see those posts for place locations on Earth.
All mistakes and misunderstandings are mine.

Original World = SHARONA
Portal #1 @ Larakesh
.............//..........
Portal Exit #1 @ Union City
Outworld #1 = NEW SHARONA
--------------------------------
several worlds
^^^^CAMRYN^^^^ Markan Brigade Base
several worlds
--------------------------------
NEW UROMATH ....
Portal Fort Shalar
...... // ......
Exit/Portal near Great Lakes
HELL'S GATE - seven (7) Portals
[/quote=HTM]
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Re: Worlds outgoing from Sharona
Post by MzRosemary   » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:08 pm

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I suggest you post worlds out from Arcana as a separate post. If you have, I missed it when scrolling posts. I was really hoping the Road to Bell would include a more detailed map. I realize the travel time between portal gates is often more critical than the number of world's from Hellsgate to the home world,but perhaps you could get one of the authors to give you a range of the number of portals between Hellsgate and the home worlds In some cases, the books indicated considerable time differences between normal travel time, expedited travel time such as Darcel Kinlafa and Prince Janaki receive and troop.movement time. How does that compare to the expedited travel time of Shaylar,Jasak, et al to Arcana? Then there is the normal travel time, and troop trading time to.compare. It takes considerable time for Voice to Voice messages to travel from Hellsgate to Sharona. How long does it take for messages to travel from Hellsgate to Arcana? I have just finished Hellsgate,and begun Hell hath No Fury. Perhaps some of.this will become clearer as I read. At least, I have the bundle with the Road to Hell in it. I can go straight from one to a other. It would have been very convenient if each switch in location had a time from Fallen Timber date line.
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Re: Worlds outgoing from Sharona
Post by Howard T. Map-addict   » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:33 am

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Welcome to Weber Forum, and Multiverse Forum, Miz Rosemary!

I have numbered some of your points for reference.

1 The Arcanan Outworlds are on a separate post,
which is Post Number Five of this Thread.
(Your Post was Number Six; this reply is Seven.)

Did you mean making a separate Thread for Arcannan worlds,
listed going the other way? I follow Shaylar's journey here.

2 The Authors' givings end with the publication of the books.
What I am doing here is Fanwork, derived only from the books,
with no extra data from me, nor guessing neither!
The Authors are not helping with it,
beyond what they wrote in the books,
though I did tell them about it.

3 They have given the time for a hummer-message from Fort
Rycharn to High Commandery Headquarters, at Arcana's Portal,
as three months.

Howard True Map-addict,
wishing you enjoyment of the rest of the story.

MzRosemary wrote:1} I suggest you post worlds out from Arcana as a separate post.
If you have, I missed it when scrolling posts.

I was really hoping the Road to Bell would include a
more detailed map. I realize the travel time between
portal gates is often more critical than the number
of worlds from Hellsgate to the home world,

2} but perhaps you could get one of the authors to give you
a range of the number of portals between Hellsgate and
the home worlds.

In some cases, the books indicated considerable time differences between normal travel time, expedited travel time such as Darcel Kinlafa and Prince Janaki receive and troop.movement time. How does that compare to the expedited travel time of Shaylar,Jasak, et al to Arcana? Then there is the normal travel time, and troop trading time to.compare.

3 It takes considerable time for Voice to Voice messages to travel from Hellsgate to Sharona. How long does it take for messages to travel from Hellsgate to Arcana?

I have just finished Hellsgate,and begun Hell hath No Fury.
Perhaps some of.this will become clearer as I read.
At least, I have the bundle with the Road to Hell in it.
I can go straight from one to a other. It would have been
very convenient if each switch in location had a time
from Fallen Timber date line.
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