Closure...Please Finish the Story

I rather think that the Admiral Poertena referred to is the Captain Poertena we met in We Few, promoted.
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John

MikeTn1 wrote:If DW and JR ever write more books in the series...

Roger first, THEN Miranda.

I think the surviving Marines will be too, too, tooooooooo busy re-building the Emperor's Own..... along with ALL the surviving Mardukans as well. I think almost ALL of them will join up. They have DEFINITELY proven that they are worthy of it.

Danny Christopher wrote:

Michael Everett wrote:
Note :- I just had an image of Fleet Admiral Poertena in the midst of battle. "Send te' pocking pighters to intercep' te' enemy!" "Sir, what was that again?"

I had to think a bit on what struck me as "off" about the idea of Poertena in a command position. After about 30 minutes it struck me that command would be a terrible waste of his talents and skills. Poertena is a highly skilled armorer. Were I in Roger's position, I would set Poertena up as a sort of Inspector General. He would be examining the weapons and armors being supplied to the Empire's Marines--with the authority to investigate and arrest those responsible for things like exploding plasma rifles/cannons. Also with the authority to tell the suppliers that they will standardize parts between systems where possible and provide proper field test equipment for the Marine gear.

I can also see him suggesting that they design a few support armors for the front-line troops. Powered Armor could be a tool as much as a weapon; Fingers with the strength of power armor would work fine as a wrench, a clenched armored fist is a good hammer, the armor as a whole is as good as a hydraulic jack for lifting and pushing. Add in some diagnostic equipment and programs and you would have a suit of mechanics armor that would be a portable armorer's shop.

Another variant armor would be a light suit with tools, diagnostics equipment and programs to give a field medic the equivalent of a walking paramedic and evacuation vehicle.

Just some thoughts.

I agree about Poertana.

MikeTn1 wrote:If DW and JR ever write more books in the series...

Roger first, THEN Miranda.

Agreed. Very much so. Too much foreshadowing not to -- a corrupt government to rebuild, a traitor to catch and civil war to fight, an eventual reckoning with the Saints, and that conversation Roger still needs to have with his mother.

MikeTn1 wrote:I think the surviving Marines will be too, too, tooooooooo busy re-building the Emperor's Own..... along with ALL the surviving Mardukans as well. I think almost ALL of them will join up. They have DEFINITELY proven that they are worthy of it.

I dunno about this, for the same reason that Sreeetoth was skeptical of Roger's idea of having Phaenur advisors in court. How would it look for the Emperor of Man to have aliens making up most of his bodyguard? In the case of France, the Swiss Guard only increased the resentment of the French monarchy by indicating that the king didn't trust his own people. It's not great security if it causes you to need it more. A little too mercenary for a government that will be desperate to shore up support.

While i like the idea of a Prequal.. I personally would rather have a sequal then a prequal.

I do not understand the idea of going back in history and telling the story about Miranda when the story about Roger has not been completed. Though i like the idea it should be done only AFTER the story is finished about roger.

Unanswered questions and possible story ideas =

1.Roger takes back the palace frees his mother and then is made emperor. Jackson is off doing something and the empire is in a civil war.... Ok NOW what? This story seriously needs to be continued.

2. The Bear worlds .. Have a alliance with the empire of man and them.. It only makes sense.

3. Marduke.. Mardukins are a perfect building block for a new guard and they should be rapidly integrated into the empires armed forces. (the books allude in part to what ranks of them with bead and plasma cannon can do :P) Granted i don't see them being much use in space Fleet combat.

etc etc etc etc.. I do not like the idea of a prequel without finishing the story first. I love Dw's books but he has gotten into a disturbing habit of leaving series half finished. Granted that IS my opinion. And he does have lots of other books that he is working on.

My main concern is that something would happen to him (god forbid) and none of the stories we love will be ever finished. I just hope that he knows that the community (the readers) Would much rather read more about Roger then read about Amanda McClintock.

That said I buy all of his books anyways. But i really realllllly would much rather read more about Roger :P

Edit.. Oh and Making Portena a Admirl would be funny as hell. (Wouldn't make sense though) considering he is a natural scrounger and negotiator. Would make more sense to put him in charge of the broken (see exploding plasma guns) procurement process.

I agree with the posts that say a prequel would be nice, but we really need to finish the story that was started.

Please, please, please, finish the original story.

I feel satisfied with the Prince Roger series end. The story is about how they triumphed over greater odds. Now that Roger is Emperor, and with the trust of the Alphane Empire, he is no longer is the underdog. Now he is stronger then his opponents in all ways, how could he lose?

Liking the Mardukan’s, I was thinking a story following a young foppish Mardukan Prince and his retinue stranded on old Earth after being sent by the Krath Royal family to be educated.

The “Prince Roger” era Krath theocracy over throws his family’s rule of the Krath Vally, the money supporting them is cut off. Now the Mardukan Prince and his retinue have to make it on their own in human society and fall into organized crime, they mention “other Mardukans” in the Prince Roger series being found in the mob.

Michael Everett wrote:
Note :- I just had an image of Fleet Admiral Poertena in the midst of battle. "Send te' pocking pighters to intercep' te' enemy!" "Sir, what was that again?"

Okay, that was great, and so, sooo true. Personally, as cool as Miranda the First's story would be, I WANT JACKSON'S HEAD ON A WALL!! Stuffed and mounted, know what I am saying? We gotta get some closure here. I also like the comment about the plasma cannons. As I recall From We Few...
Subianto: We will just be taking our team and going now.
Sergeant: You could have told us!
Subianto: Sergeant, Sergeant, Sergeant...you know ImpCity data security isn't that good.
Sergeant: They set the entire block on fire!
Subianto: Accidents can happen.
Sergeant: They were using a TANK CANNON!! A PLASMA TANK CANNON!!!
((Erkum Pol twiddles all four thumbd, attemtps to nonchalantly whistle. Fails epicly))
Subianto: Sergeant, relax. I am from the IBI. I am here to help you.

While I agree that it'd be nice for more books in several of David Weber's series, I think this song sums up reality. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6a1y1pc-GQ

laazarus wrote:I want a fifth book soooo bad...So Roger is home now...and the Emperor, but his Empire is fractured. "Prince" Jackson has escaped, taken a huge portion of the fleet, and is trying to secede with half the empire...This CANNOT stand!!! Roger will NOT allow it! Lets hear the story of Roger re-conquering his empire, consolidating and solidifying his power base, and being the nastiest, most vicious, SOB in the entire f-ing Empire.

How annoying....finish this series please. I agree with previous poster about not buying a series until its finished. I feel like I wasted my time and money reading this series if there's not going to be any closure. Kind of like doing a jigsaw puzzle and finding out there's a piece missing. Sadly David wont be seeing any more of my money for his work but, like Pournelle, he seems to have a problem finishing a series.

[quote="Donnachaidh"]While I agree that it'd be nice for more books in several of David Weber's series, I think this song sums up reality. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6a1y1pc-GQ



Cute song, never called him "my bitch" but I am a customer and apparently not in the minority either.

jagerfrogger wrote:How annoying....finish this series please. I agree with previous poster about not buying a series until its finished. I feel like I wasted my time and money reading this series if there's not going to be any closure. Kind of like doing a jigsaw puzzle and finding out there's a piece missing. Sadly David wont be seeing any more of my money for his work but, like Pournelle, he seems to have a problem finishing a series.

I don't see any way to "finish" a fictional historical story, i.e. bring it to a conclusion. The more realistic a story world is, the closer it resembles reality, where the only limits to a story are the viewpoint and arbitrarily selected events that limit a particular course of action.

One reason that the Honor series ran so long is that the character had to rise through the ranks in the midst of an ongoing confrontation between two powers much larger than the pivotal character. Roger doesn't have that advantage as a character projected into the future, because the story was started within a year of his taking the throne. Once a character has reached the penultimate position of authority, there's not much more that he/she can achieve.

While I enjoyed the Prince Roger series, if the storyline were to continue, it would have to follow his heirs ad infinitum, and in the course of doing so, would lose focus.

That's why I can understand the notion of a prequel or two involving Roger, his siblings, and some of the secondary characters from the Prince Roger series, filling in the gaps and showing how they got to where we met them in the first March book.

There is perhaps room for more campaign for Roger as Emperor, but not with him in battle as before. Having an Emperor leading battles from the front lines would be absurd.

I suggest that the series be renamed as the Campaign of Roger 1, and the storyline continued with Roger as a secondary character.