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Re: Gun control really, really works!
Post by Daryl   » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:31 pm

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We had a gun incident a couple of weeks ago in our state's capital city. Two men wanted for breaching parole fired a random shot out of the apartment they were in. About a third of the CBD of a large city, and one of the major roads were locked down for most of the day, until they surrendered. It was the biggest news article for days.
Considering that Australia had a similar genesis to the US with an armed wild west period, something has changed since.
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Re: Gun control really, really works!
Post by Imaginos1892   » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:39 pm

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The E wrote:Compared to other protests that have happened in France recently, it was rather restrained - but this is France, and enthusiastic protesting is something of a thing there.

Yup, it's all in fun until they break out the guillotines. :D
And grapeshot, can't forget your grapeshot. :o

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Re: Gun control really, really works!
Post by The E   » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:07 am

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:Anyone who actually looks at this map will notice a politically incorrect reality about the which countries have high homicide rates.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... e_rate.png


How is pointing out that the US is a massive outlier in terms of violent crime amongst first-world nations "politically incorrect"?

Or is this your dyscalculia talking again?
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Re: Gun control really, really works!
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:38 pm

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The E wrote:
TFLYTSNBN wrote:Anyone who actually looks at this map will notice a politically incorrect reality about the which countries have high homicide rates.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... e_rate.png


How is pointing out that the US is a massive outlier in terms of violent crime amongst first-world nations "politically incorrect"?

Or is this your dyscalculia talking again?


If one subtracts the 2/3s of gun homicides committed by African Americans and an additional 1/4 of gun homicides committed by illegal aliens from Latin America, the homicide rate in the US is very normal compared to other developed countries.

Now come the pitchforks and torches of the politically correct imbeciles who are outraged by the alleged racism implied by simply speaking the truth.
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Re: Gun control really, really works!
Post by Imaginos1892   » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:56 pm

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Don't forget that 60% of those 'gun violence deaths' are suicides, according to the latest statistics from the CDC.

(Why the FUCK is the CDC dealing in crime statistics, anyway? Does the FBI analyze new strains of viruses? Doctors and police do very different jobs, in very different ways.)

Over half of 'gun violence victims' are criminals, which make up less than 2% of the general population. Criminals shot by police are 'gun violence deaths'.

70% of violent crimes are committed by known criminals out on bail, paroled, on probation, or released early for 'good behavior'. Just keeping criminals in jail would substantially reduce crime. Why are parole boards never held responsible for crimes committed by the violent criminals they turn loose?
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Re: Gun control really, really works!
Post by smr   » Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:57 pm

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maginos1892, some of these posters just want America disarmed. What they fail to realize is that prevents the political elites here in America from running rough shod over us and the rest of the world.
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Re: Gun control really, really works!
Post by noblehunter   » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:00 pm

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smr wrote:maginos1892, some of these posters just want America disarmed. What they fail to realize is that prevents the political elites here in America from running rough shod over us and the rest of the world.


If it's only civilians with guns that keeps your politicians in check, then the American Republic is truly a failed experiment.
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Re: Gun control really, really works!
Post by smr   » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:07 pm

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noblehunter wrote:
smr wrote:maginos1892, some of these posters just want America disarmed. What they fail to realize is that prevents the political elites here in America from running rough shod over us and the rest of the world.


If it's only civilians with guns that keeps your politicians in check, then the American Republic is truly a failed experiment.


It might be but its failed in the EU. Do you have any accountability of the Federal government of the EU. Their is none! At least we will die like Men with guns in hands fighting evil. In Europe the men bend over drop the shorts and just meekly submit. I give the French credit for standing up but it's probably too late.
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Re: Gun control really, really works!
Post by noblehunter   » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:32 pm

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smr wrote:It might be but its failed in the EU. Do you have any accountability of the Federal government of the EU. Their is none! At least we will die like Men with guns in hands fighting evil. In Europe the men bend over drop the shorts and just meekly submit. I give the French credit for standing up but it's probably too late.


Fighting evil? Have you checked to see which side you're on?
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Re: Gun control really, really works!
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:31 pm

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Imaginos1892 wrote:Don't forget that 60% of those 'gun violence deaths' are suicides, according to the latest statistics from the CDC.

(Why the FUCK is the CDC dealing in crime statistics, anyway? Does the FBI analyze new strains of viruses? Doctors and police do very different jobs, in very different ways.)

Over half of 'gun violence victims' are criminals, which make up less than 2% of the general population. Criminals shot by police are 'gun violence deaths'.

70% of violent crimes are committed by known criminals out on bail, paroled, on probation, or released early for 'good behavior'. Just keeping criminals in jail would substantially reduce crime. Why are parole boards never held responsible for crimes committed by the violent criminals they turn loose?
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Do not forget that in spite of the proliferation of guns, the US has one of the lowest suicide rates in the industrialized world.
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