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Re: US out of Venezuela!
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:44 am

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gcomeau wrote:
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Source?

My source says 2013.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -quicktake


No, your "source" does not say that. It just says Amazon entered into a delivery contract with USPS in 2013.

It doesn't say one single damn word about "President Obama pressuring the US Post Office to provide delivery services to Amazon at a small fraction of fair market value."

Because that never happened. Trump says it happened, but Trump says about 150 untrue things an hour last I checked.

It also says USPS says they are making a profit on the deal.

If the seller is making a profit, and the buyer is getting what they want for their payments, that is pretty much the definition of "fair market value".



The 2006 rules for USPS were predicated on the presumption that the marginal cost of handling the packages being shipped would be minimal. The rules reflected the historic paradigm that the volume of packages would be low enough that mail carriers carriers who deliver the packages would usually not have to make extra trips. The 2006 rules also include a discount for presorting by Zip Code and another discount for submitting the packages for delivery to the branch post office that they are to be delivered from.

Amazons sales volume and numerous fullfillment centers do not conform to the preexisting paradigm. Amazon delivers huge volumes of packages to individual post offices (say two pallets each with a cubic meter of packages weighing 500 kg to a small town of only 1,000 people) that vastly exceeds the volume of normal mail and packages from other shippers. This huge volume exceeds the capacity of mail delivery vehicles. As a result, carriers have to make extra trips to finish their route or more carriers have to be hired to handle more volume.
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Re: US out of Venezuela!
Post by gcomeau   » Mon Apr 01, 2019 11:24 am

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:
gcomeau wrote:No, your "source" does not say that. It just says Amazon entered into a delivery contract with USPS in 2013.

It doesn't say one single damn word about "President Obama pressuring the US Post Office to provide delivery services to Amazon at a small fraction of fair market value."

Because that never happened. Trump says it happened, but Trump says about 150 untrue things an hour last I checked.

It also says USPS says they are making a profit on the deal.

If the seller is making a profit, and the buyer is getting what they want for their payments, that is pretty much the definition of "fair market value".



The 2006 rules for USPS were predicated on the presumption that the marginal cost of handling the packages being shipped would be minimal. The rules reflected the historic paradigm that the volume of packages would be low enough that mail carriers carriers who deliver the packages would usually not have to make extra trips. The 2006 rules also include a discount for presorting by Zip Code and another discount for submitting the packages for delivery to the branch post office that they are to be delivered from.

Amazons sales volume and numerous fullfillment centers do not conform to the preexisting paradigm. Amazon delivers huge volumes of packages to individual post offices (say two pallets each with a cubic meter of packages weighing 500 kg to a small town of only 1,000 people) that vastly exceeds the volume of normal mail and packages from other shippers. This huge volume exceeds the capacity of mail delivery vehicles. As a result, carriers have to make extra trips to finish their route or more carriers have to be hired to handle more volume.


I repeat. If the buyer is getting what they are paying for, and the seller is turning a profit selling it to them, wtf is your definition of "fair market value" that you are using to claim that USPS isn't charging it?

And there is not one single word in your source about Obama forcing them to do anything. Why would he have to force USPS to enter into a profitable deal?
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Re: US out of Venezuela!
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:20 pm

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Things are heating up in Venezuela:

https://youtu.be/TGDn2-Qr_Lg

Isn't it wonderful that Cuban, Russian and Chines troops have been deployed to Venezualla to either massacre the protestors or coerce Venezulan troops to massacre the protestors.

Isn't it wonderful that Venezula has draconian gun control laws to ensure that Venezulans can not defend themselves from their own government.

Isn't it wonderful that all of the propaganda about US imperialism will ensure that the United States will not intervene even to prevent genocide.
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Re: US out of Venezuela!
Post by gcomeau   » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:59 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:Isn't it wonderful that all of the propaganda about US imperialism will ensure that the United States will not intervene even to prevent genocide.


Isn't it amazing that you can't remember the post you started this entire thread with? The US not getting involved is exactly what you called for... and now you're bitching about the prospect of exactly that happening.
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Re: US out of Venezuela!
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:46 pm

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gcomeau wrote:
TFLYTSNBN wrote:Isn't it wonderful that all of the propaganda about US imperialism will ensure that the United States will not intervene even to prevent genocide.


Isn't it amazing that you can't remember the post you started this entire thread with? The US not getting involved is exactly what you called for... and now you're bitching about the prospect of exactly that happening.



I remember that post perfeftly. My opinion remains unchanged. However; I can not resist the temptation to rub your noses into this socialist shit pile of impending genocide.

Now I am off to pop some pop corn.
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Re: US out of Venezuela!
Post by Joat42   » Wed May 01, 2019 6:30 am

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:I remember that post perfeftly. My opinion remains unchanged. However; I can not resist the temptation to rub your noses into this socialist shit pile of impending genocide.

Now I am off to pop some pop corn.

And as usual you use words you don't understand in an context they don't belong, all the while gleefully figuratively rubbing your hands at people dying just so you can feel you are right.

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Re: US out of Venezuela!
Post by smr   » Wed May 01, 2019 8:50 am

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If we did what you advocated, you will be calling us America the "Imperialist America." We have stayed out of the fighting and allowed the Venezuelans to self determine their country's path. This is important message to teach America's youth that the right to bear arms is important for self determination rule. Instead only the left approved Individuals and the Army can own and wield firearms. The average Venezuelan has lost 21 lbs in the last year due to food shortages.
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Re: US out of Venezuela!
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Wed May 01, 2019 2:28 pm

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smr wrote:If we did what you advocated, you will be calling us America the "Imperialist America." We have stayed out of the fighting and allowed the Venezuelans to self determine their country's path. This is important message to teach America's youth that the right to bear arms is important for self determination rule. Instead only the left approved Individuals and the Army can own and wield firearms. The average Venezuelan has lost 21 lbs in the last year due to food shortages.



It will be interesting to see if any American leftists learn anything from observing the consequences of civilian disarmament.

If you stick your head in the sand like an ostrich, you have no one but yourself to blame if tyrants line up to sodomized you.
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Re: US out of Venezuela!
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Wed May 01, 2019 2:33 pm

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http://www.slaveofconvention.com/html/h ... rewyou.htm

Venezuelans allowed themselves to be caught in a rat trap.

The Cubans, the Russians and even the Chinese are rushing to give the disarmed citizens of Venezuela a butt reaming.
At least the Chinese will not be as painful .
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