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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by Annachie   » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:34 pm

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If he really did nothing wrong, why all the lies? Under oath even.
Why the building alibi's BEFORE he claims he knew?
Why the abusive attack?

No, Kavanaugh did it. His actions pretty much confirm it.

Oh that's right, the right stuck their fingers in their ears and ignored the lies because to them politics trumps morality.

"If you throw enough mud, some will stick" is a truism from house building.
Back when mud was used.
It's why bricklayers call cement "mud".
It was the right that used it in a negative political sense.
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by Joat42   » Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:56 pm

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Imaginos1892 wrote:
Joat42 wrote:And it could all have been neutered by Kavanaugh withdrawing and Trump could have nominated someone else.

But if he really did nothing wrong, if it was all lies and slander, WHY should he be the one to give in? So the liars will know they can torpedo ANY candidate if they raise a big enough stink?

There's a line in a story I'm writing:

Dita wrote:It was all lies, but if they throw enough shit at you, some of the stink just has to stick.

The left-wingers are famous for that.

Famous? So you are saying that the right doesn't sling shit in equal measure?

Anyway, the point is that appointing and forcing through the nomination of someone in a controversy to one of the most important judicial posts sets a bad precedent. If Kavanaugh is innocent it's not fair to make him withdraw but it's not about fairness but what the consequences are for the judicial system down the line when it becomes even more politicized.

Anyone flogging the idea that winning at all costs is a bad leader. Sometimes the better choice is to back off and take your lumps so you can win later.

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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by Michael Everett   » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:11 pm

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Joat42 wrote:Famous? So you are saying that the right doesn't sling shit in equal measure?

I do believe that a certain meme promulgated by Tim Poole (independent reporter/commentator on the Youtube channel Timcast) could be used here.



To those of us not directly involved, it's sometimes hard to make out the differences between participants due to the sheer amount of mud-slinging going on.
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by smr   » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:10 pm

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Agreed with the meme by Tim Poole!

Michael Everett wrote:
Joat42 wrote:Famous? So you are saying that the right doesn't sling shit in equal measure?

I do believe that a certain meme promulgated by Tim Poole (independent reporter/commentator on the Youtube channel Timcast) could be used here.



To those of us not directly involved, it's sometimes hard to make out the differences between participants due to the sheer amount of mud-slinging going on.
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by gcomeau   » Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:12 pm

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smr wrote:Agreed with the meme by Tim Poole!


Of course you do, false equivalencies work to the advantage of the right in the US.
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by Michael Everett   » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:23 pm

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gcomeau wrote:
smr wrote:Agreed with the meme by Tim Poole!


Of course you do, false equivalencies work to the advantage of the right in the US.

gc, this vid may help explain things...

And I've noticed the same thing Tim Poole comments on.
The (extreme/regressive) Left cannot Meme.
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by gcomeau   » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:36 pm

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Michael Everett wrote:
gcomeau wrote:Of course you do, false equivalencies work to the advantage of the right in the US.

gc, this vid may help explain things...

And I've noticed the same thing Tim Poole comments on.
The (extreme/regressive) Left cannot Meme.


Ok, I just sat through several minutes of the guy explaining in painfully obvious terms that it represented the left and the right blaming each other and being the same.

Which is what I already knew.

Which is why I said it was a false equivalency.

What was watching that supposed to help me with?
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by Joat42   » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:52 pm

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Michael Everett wrote:
Joat42 wrote:Famous? So you are saying that the right doesn't sling shit in equal measure?

I do believe that a certain meme promulgated by Tim Poole (independent reporter/commentator on the Youtube channel Timcast) could be used here.



To those of us not directly involved, it's sometimes hard to make out the differences between participants due to the sheer amount of mud-slinging going on.

It seems the picture is missing a bunch of Spidermen.

I'm not sure Tim's viewership counts as a representative group to draw any valid conclusions on although we all know that if someone is on the extreme right/left they tend to blame and demonize everything on the other side no matter the context.

Also, what a President says matters. And if he demonizes people, if he "jokes" about perpetrating violence on others he WILL trigger some nutjob. So he has a fundamental responsibility to weigh his words and what actions they may inspire.

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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by Imaginos1892   » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:38 pm

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Joat42 wrote:If Kavanaugh is innocent it's not fair to make him withdraw but it's not about fairness but what the consequences are for the judicial system down the line when it becomes even more politicized.

How, exactly, can it GET any more politicized?

Joat42 wrote:Anyway, the point is that appointing and forcing through the nomination of someone in a controversy to one of the most important judicial posts sets a bad precedent.

ANY nominee Trump proposes will face exactly the same sort of 'controversy' as the Democrats refuse to allow him to 'win' a Supreme Court appointment. Trump could nominate a present-day Thurgood Marshall and they'd bury the poor guy in shit.

If I was a potential Supreme Court nominee, I would seriously consider taking an extended vacation outside the country. :lol: New Zealand should be nice this time of year.
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Re: Trump gets another SCOTUS appointment?
Post by Annachie   » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:53 pm

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Sorry Imaginos, you're thinking of Republicans and Obama nominations

Kavanaugh is the second Trump appointee remember.

But then you obviously forgot the fake sex scandal about Gorsuch.

Oh wait, there wasn't one. Just like there wasn't one this time was there?

Because, if you're going to fake a scandal you do it with the nomination you expect, not the one you don't know about, don't you?
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