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Dilandu, taxes are not theft.
If taxes are used for illegal purposes, then they are misused, and thus stolen. Gcomeau claimed that noble goal justify the means, though...
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About that voter fraud thing....
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by Dilandu
» Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:25 am
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If taxes are used for illegal purposes, then they are misused, and thus stolen. Gcomeau claimed that noble goal justify the means, though... ------------------------------
Oh well, if shortening the front is what the Germans crave, Let's shorten it to very end - the length of Fuhrer's grave. (Red Army lyrics from 1945) |
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by The E
» Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:28 pm
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Since when is using taxation to pay for public education in any way a misuse of taxes? |
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by Dilandu
» Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:45 pm
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Using them for public education of peoples, who are not a subjects to the country public educational system is misuse. ------------------------------
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by Daryl
» Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:08 pm
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So you want these kids to not go to school and just roam the streets? Much cheaper to allow them to attend existing classes. Who knows they may becomd productive citizens some day, and if not then consider it to be foreign aid. The inherent meanness of the right is always surprising to me. |
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by Dilandu
» Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:21 am
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So now you use "lesser of two evils" rhetoric? ------------------------------
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by Daryl
» Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:55 am
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Nothing wrong with "lesser of two evils", but that's not it, as I don't regard a wealthy society extending assistance to vulnerable children as being evil. Even possibly a pragmatic way of gaining new young workers in an ageing society.
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by Dilandu
» Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:23 am
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Okay, if Honduras seized US property & refused to pay US-based debts to pay for public education program would you consider it a pragmatic extension of assistance? ------------------------------
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by The E
» Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:05 am
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How about you stop constructing hypothetical scenarios that involve state-level actors doing something against the interests of other state-level actors and get back to something resembling a point. |
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by Annachie
» Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:58 am
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He can't E.
He, and others of the same weird political bent, fail to understand that their need to create weird and unlikly scenarios to justify their positions only shows how poor those positions were in the first place. Similar to smr's linking to "Mama bear" in the gun thread. Rather than proving his position on guns, by it's rarity it actually proves the opposite. That actually having a gun used in self defence is newsworthy, but accidental shooting and toddler involved shootings are so common that they're hardly news anymore. Another example is voter fraud. It happens so rarely that by highlighting the rare story of it they are really highlighting how rare it is. But smr et al fail to actually understand what they are doing because they are so locked into either justifying their position, or refusing to admit the real reasons to themselves. It's sad really. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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by Dilandu
» Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:42 am
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It's what we call "logic" in Russia. So, you are perfectly fine with spending US money on the illegal migrants as long as its inside the USA, but as soon as I suggested that the problem may be solved "at home", eliminating the need for those illegal migrants to be illegal at first (and quite probably migrants as second), you started to scream that it's a highway robbery, and it's against the US interests). Despite the fact that both actions are, in fact, illegal, and the only difference is that the first affect US taxpayers, and the second affect mostly US corporation interests. Yeah, a lot of "humane and progressive thinking". ------------------------------
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