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Re: About that voter fraud thing....
Post by Dilandu   » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:45 am

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Annachie wrote:He can't E.

He, and others of the same weird political bent, fail to understand that their need to create weird and unlikly scenarios to justify their positions only shows how poor those positions were in the first place.



Yeah, yeah, who could believe that Russia would do just that in 1918? It was so weird and unlikely. And then China... and then Cuba, Vietnam... ;)
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Re: About that voter fraud thing....
Post by The E   » Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:32 am

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Dilandu wrote:It's what we call "logic" in Russia. So, you are perfectly fine with spending US money on the illegal migrants as long as its inside the USA, but as soon as I suggested that the problem may be solved "at home", eliminating the need for those illegal migrants to be illegal at first (and quite probably migrants as second), you started to scream that it's a highway robbery, and it's against the US interests).


Several things about that.

1: You are going off of a statement by Imaginos that schools in his area are "full of illegal immigrants", a statement that he didn't source. So, what is the number of children of illegal immigrants in the California school system? How much in tax money is spent on their education?
2: The only argument you came up with in this chain of posts was "but what if the immigrants' country of origin started confiscating property of US corporations, that's theft!", which... a) isn't something I would call a bad thing on general principles and b) has got nothing at all to do with an american griping about how a tiny fraction of his personal tax load is going toward educating children that aren't US citizens.
3: For any individual US citizen, the "damage" being done to them is almost imperceptible.
4: There is a vast difference between you paying taxes and those taxes paying for things you don't approve of, and a state deciding to confiscate properties owned by foreign interests. To compare the two, if it is indeed an example of "russian logic", makes me wary of "russian logic" as a valid way to look at the world.

Despite the fact that both actions are, in fact, illegal, and the only difference is that the first affect US taxpayers, and the second affect mostly US corporation interests. Yeah, a lot of "humane and progressive thinking".


A school system deciding to spend money on educating all children, not just those of full citizens, is not illegal by any stretch of the imagination.
A state deciding that they need to confiscate foreign-owned assets is also not illegal. It might violate WTO treaties and trade deals, but the action itself is not illegal (Try proving something, anything a state is doing within its own borders is illegal under its own laws. Good luck with that.)
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Re: About that voter fraud thing....
Post by smr   » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:20 am

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43mV-jApjmI

Interesting, we will have to wait to see how this progresses.
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Re: About that voter fraud thing....
Post by gcomeau   » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:20 pm

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smr wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43mV-jApjmI

Interesting, we will have to wait to see how this progresses.


Oh good grief... could you stop using YouTube as a news source?

And considering this accusation is coming from the guy the courts just had to smack down for engaging in voter suppression while is simultaneously running for governor and refusing to step down as secretary of state so he's running the election he is participating in... yeah, maybe be skeptical.
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Re: About that voter fraud thing....
Post by Joat42   » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:16 pm

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gcomeau wrote:
smr wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43mV-jApjmI

Interesting, we will have to wait to see how this progresses.


Oh good grief... could you stop using YouTube as a news source?

And considering this accusation is coming from the guy the courts just had to smack down for engaging in voter suppression while is simultaneously running for governor and refusing to step down as secretary of state so he's running the election he is participating in... yeah, maybe be skeptical.

If this is the information sources smr chooses it's no wonder he hasn't got a clue.

If you want more information of what happened you can find it at Techdirt.

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Re: About that voter fraud thing....
Post by smr   » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:27 pm

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Joat42 go find the original source. Don't you feel stupid now! :D Second, all I said was interesting and would like to keep an eye on this. Translation: Is this for real or BS! Time will tell.

Plenty of Secretary of State(s) have run for Governor in many different States. Get a grip! In Texas, they made a bunch of poll watchers move their setup because they were within 65 feet of the polling station rather than 100 feet. A guy had to go shirtless because it supported the President and the President was not on the ballot (political messaging). They would not allow him to turn the shirt inside out and vote. Point is each state has it's own regulations and quirks that must be followed!

smr wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43mV-jApjmI

Interesting, we will have to wait to see how this progresses.


Oh good grief... could you stop using YouTube as a news source?

And considering this accusation is coming from the guy the courts just had to smack down for engaging in voter suppression while is simultaneously running for governor and refusing to step down as secretary of state so he's running the election he is participating in... yeah, maybe be skeptical.[/quote]
If this is the information sources smr chooses it's no wonder he hasn't got a clue.

If you want more information of what happened you can find it at Techdirt.[/quote][/quote]
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Re: About that voter fraud thing....
Post by Joat42   » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:03 pm

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smr wrote:Joat42 go find the original source. Don't you feel stupid now! :D

It's not like the post I linked to had links to all the original sources... wait! It had!

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Re: About that voter fraud thing....
Post by smr   » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:24 pm

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The election recount is done and she (Brenda Snipes)(Supervisor for Elections Broward County) is resigning at the beginning of the new year. I wonder if the resignation was voluntary or forced. If the resignation was forced, I hope she gets jail time (allowing for due process)!
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Re: About that voter fraud thing....
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:39 pm

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Daryl wrote:I'll try to simplify a complicated logic chain.
In many western countries we are facing an aging population problem. In order to ensure that our country has both enough young workers to run the economy, and in a more intimate sense to wipe us down in retirement village dotage, we need to import young people.
You can't eat dollars and they are not efficient wipes, so we do have to invest in young people. Either by baby bonuses for citizens or by importing them.
Childless couples (DINKS) complain about this, but it is essential. Merkel knew this and now has many new BMW and Mercedes workers.
A classic example was at the time of the Tienanmen Square massacre, our PM emotionally said he would allow any Chinese nationals studying in Australia stay if they wished. Many of our top scientists and medicos came from that. Cream of a billion people have to be of some use?


Why not just resume procreating rather than just fornicating? Then you wouldn't have to import a new people. Of course many on this forum arent capable of fornicating either.
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Re: About that voter fraud thing....
Post by gcomeau   » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:13 pm

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:Why not just resume procreating rather than just fornicating? Then you wouldn't have to import a new people. Of course many on this forum arent capable of fornicating either.


And the forum's resident 12 year old and his obsession with people's genitals and what they do with them strikes again...
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