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A real Shit-hole in a Red State and a real Red City
Post by Senior Chief   » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:37 am

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For those who have maintained that San Francisco is full of . . . whatever, there is now living proof. How much poop is there on the streets of the City by the Bay?
Would you believe there is an online map to track human feces on the city’s streets? There is.
According to Fox News, one area of the city reported a 140% rise in feces. As Jay Caruso of RedState noted, “Public urination is so widespread it has damaged subway elevators and escalators, building walls and power poles.”
When did the gleaming jewel that was San Francisco become a repository for poop? Mayor Willie Brown terminated ordinances; city district Attorney Terence Hallinan would not prosecute “victimless” crimes involving drugs and prostitution.
A report from the Office of the Controller stated, “service requests related to human waste increased across all Supervisorial Districts in San Francisco in FY 2015-16, and at a rate well above the average growth in overall SF311 use. District 6 (in Zone B) had far more service requests related to human waste than any other district – three-times as many as the next highest count in District 9 (Zone D) – and nearly 30 percent more requests compared to FY 2014-15. This change appears to be driven mostly by additional reports along Market Street, south of
Additionally, data from Public Works showed an increase of 13.5% in service orders generated from public service requests.

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People pay unfathomable amounts of money to live in San Francisco – they should not be subject to the daily doo-doos of people who pay nothing.
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Re: A real Shit-hole in a Red State and a real Red City
Post by munroburton   » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:03 pm

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Gross. But...

https://sf.curbed.com/2016/12/5/1384527 ... ancisco-sf

A handy Google Map lists 126 facilities in the city, ranging from public restrooms to businesses that are at least game to help you out in an emergency.

But that adds up to less than one restroom every 0.4 square miles, or one for every 6,857 residents, not even counting tourists, commuters, and those overlooked by official census counts.

Compare this to New York City, whose 2,713 or so open bathrooms amount to roughly one every one tenth of a square mile, or one per every 3,000 residents or so. (Which is probably still not even enough.)


http://www.streetsheet.org/?p=3323

If it's correct that there are 7,000 homeless people in SF, then that's two and a half million turds per year to dispose of. Five million litres of urine too.

And only 274 toilets available to accommodate that.

There are many possible solutions, but the simplest one seems to be to provide more public bathroom facilities. If there aren't enough toilets, obviously people will end up relieving themselves somewhere else. It then becomes a public health problem which libertarian principles can only exacerbate rather than solve.
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Re: A real Shit-hole in a Red State and a real Red City
Post by biochem   » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:11 pm

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munroburton wrote:Gross. But...

https://sf.curbed.com/2016/12/5/1384527 ... ancisco-sf

A handy Google Map lists 126 facilities in the city, ranging from public restrooms to businesses that are at least game to help you out in an emergency.

But that adds up to less than one restroom every 0.4 square miles, or one for every 6,857 residents, not even counting tourists, commuters, and those overlooked by official census counts.

Compare this to New York City, whose 2,713 or so open bathrooms amount to roughly one every one tenth of a square mile, or one per every 3,000 residents or so. (Which is probably still not even enough.)


http://www.streetsheet.org/?p=3323

If it's correct that there are 7,000 homeless people in SF, then that's two and a half million turds per year to dispose of. Five million litres of urine too.

And only 274 toilets available to accommodate that.

There are many possible solutions, but the simplest one seems to be to provide more public bathroom facilities. If there aren't enough toilets, obviously people will end up relieving themselves somewhere else. It then becomes a public health problem which libertarian principles can only exacerbate rather than solve.


There are tremendous problems with vandalism etc. So maintenance is a logistical challenge for the city. Especially since the vast majority of the permenantly homeless are drug/alcohol addicted and/or mentally ill. However the city should absolutely not be left off the hook. They deliberately chose policies to make themselves a homeless Mecca, so they should absolutely be required to deal with the consequences which include additional public restrooms and whatever maintenance is necessary to deal with the vandalism.
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