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When do we just call the Russia thing a criminal conspiracy?

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Re: When do we just call the Russia thing a criminal conspir
Post by smr   » Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:24 pm

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At least Alex Jones makes money plying his conspiracy theories. You need to get involved the antifa and help lead their glorious revolution with your rhetoric and ideology.

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smr wrote:LOL what a joke of an argument. Hey Gcomeau...you make Alex Jones sound rational with your conspiracy theories.


Did you just call a nationally televised interview and official publicly available court records a "conspiracy theory"?
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Re: When do we just call the Russia thing a criminal conspir
Post by gcomeau   » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:07 pm

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smr wrote:At least Alex Jones makes money plying his conspiracy theories. You need to get involved the antifa and help lead their glorious revolution with your rhetoric and ideology.

gcomeau wrote:Did you just call a nationally televised interview and official publicly available court records a "conspiracy theory"?


Ok so to be explicit, you are calling WATCHING TRUMP ON TELEVISION AND HEARING WHAT HE SAID HIMSELF, then repeating what he said, a "conspiracy theory"?


You're pathetic.
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Re: When do we just call the Russia thing a criminal conspir
Post by Annachie   » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:50 pm

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gcomeau wrote:
smr wrote:At least Alex Jones makes money plying his conspiracy theories. You need to get involved the antifa and help lead their glorious revolution with your rhetoric and ideology.

[quote="gcomeau"]Did you just call a nationally televised interview and official publicly available court records a "conspiracy theory"?


Ok so to be explicit, you are calling WATCHING TRUMP ON TELEVISION AND HEARING WHAT HE SAID HIMSELF, then repeating what he said, a "conspiracy theory"?


You're pathetic.[/quote]Given that Trump himself has denied doing/saying things that he was filmed doing/saying, do you expect any different from one of his followers?
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Re: When do we just call the Russia thing a criminal conspir
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:48 pm

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gcomeau wrote:"smr"At least Alex Jones makes money plying his conspiracy theories. You need to get involved the antifa and help lead their glorious revolution with your rhetoric and ideology.

"gcomeau"Did you just call a nationally televised interview and official publicly available court records a "conspiracy theory"?
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Ok so to be explicit, you are calling WATCHING TRUMP ON TELEVISION AND HEARING WHAT HE SAID HIMSELF, then repeating what he said, a "conspiracy theory"?


You're pathetic.[/quote]

Did you forget?

The truth is not the truth!

I am thinking it is time to reread 1984... that sounds like a quote from there.

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Re: When do we just call the Russia thing a criminal conspir
Post by Michael Everett   » Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:44 pm

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For great examples of how Media can be used to create false narratives, may I recommend the Babylon 5 episodes The Illusion Of Truth (S4, ep8) and the Deconstruction Of Falling Stars (S4, ep 23). In both cases, though, it was ordered by the government.

Russia has proven via its response to the Novochik Incident that it doesn't care about the truth so long as it can muddy the waters enough to create something that at resembles Plausible Deniability, or at least enough Implausible Deniability to make it clear that they refuse to let themselves take the consequences of their actions.
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Re: When do we just call the Russia thing a criminal conspir
Post by smr   » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:46 pm

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Psst! Psst! Psst! When we put [HRC] in Gitmo. Shsssh! We have to keep this very quiet as not to upset Gcomeau. His tirades might cause him to have an anuerysma. Ok, we we put her in jail for creation and release of false dossier that she overpaid for.
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Re: When do we just call the Russia thing a criminal conspir
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:08 pm

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Michael Everett wrote:For great examples of how Media can be used to create false narratives, may I recommend the Babylon 5 episodes The Illusion Of Truth (S4, ep8) and the Deconstruction Of Falling Stars (S4, ep 23). In both cases, though, it was ordered by the government.

Russia has proven via its response to the Novochik Incident that it doesn't care about the truth so long as it can muddy the waters enough to create something that at resembles Plausible Deniability, or at least enough Implausible Deniability to make it clear that they refuse to let themselves take the consequences of their actions.
Donald Trump greatly admires Vladimir Putin.
Fake News is currently a big thing in America.
...
I hope to heck the pattern I'm seeing isn't actually true...


I was too busy with my career when Babylon 5 was broadcast but a recently read article got me interested in it...
I have second season waiting for me to free up some time and your note may have kicked me into action.
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Re: When do we just call the Russia thing a criminal conspir
Post by Joat42   » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:08 pm

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smr wrote:Psst! Psst! Psst! When we put [HRC] in Gitmo. Shsssh! We have to keep this very quiet as not to upset Gcomeau. His tirades might cause him to have an anuerysma. Ok, we we put her in jail for creation and release of false dossier that she overpaid for.

Are you a man or mouse? Because all I hear is squeaking. Grow the f*ck up.

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Re: When do we just call the Russia thing a criminal conspir
Post by smr   » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:28 pm

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I am just a man made in God's image just like you.

Joat42 wrote:
smr wrote:Psst! Psst! Psst! When we put [HRC] in Gitmo. Shsssh! We have to keep this very quiet as not to upset Gcomeau. His tirades might cause him to have an anuerysma. Ok, we we put her in jail for creation and release of false dossier that she overpaid for.

Are you a man or mouse? Because all I hear is squeaking. Grow the f*ck up.
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Re: When do we just call the Russia thing a criminal conspir
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:48 pm

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How about when there is actual evidence of an actual conspiracy to commit actual criminal acts?
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