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What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.

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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by gcomeau   » Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:22 pm

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And this is how a constant boiling vat of corruption gradually eats away any check or balance intended to contain it.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/28/politics ... index.html

A year ago Graham was saying that if Trump fired Sessions just because Sessions wouldn't obstruct justice for him by intervening in the Mueller investigation there would be "hell to pay".

A year later? Trump's only complaint against Sessions CONTINUES to be that he won't obstruct justice for him and/or initiate politically motivated investigations into people Trump doesn't like.... but Graham has gone from "hell to pay" to "well the relationship is beyond repair and we need a better one."


Since the only thing poisoning this one is Sessions following DOJ ethical guidance in defiance of Trump, and Trump will only have a better relationship with an AG who doesn't, think about what Sessions is advocating here.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:16 pm

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gcomeau wrote:And this is how a constant boiling vat of corruption gradually eats away any check or balance intended to contain it.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/28/politics ... index.html

A year ago Graham was saying that if Trump fired Sessions just because Sessions wouldn't obstruct justice for him by intervening in the Mueller investigation there would be "hell to pay".

A year later? Trump's only complaint against Sessions CONTINUES to be that he won't obstruct justice for him and/or initiate politically motivated investigations into people Trump doesn't like.... but Graham has gone from "hell to pay" to "well the relationship is beyond repair and we need a better one."


Since the only thing poisoning this one is Sessions following DOJ ethical guidance in defiance of Trump, and Trump will only have a better relationship with an AG who doesn't, think about what Sessions is advocating here.


It sure looks like you are right.
Remember when Trump told us of the BEST PEOPLE

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/c ... t-50183308

I KNOW THE BEST... but in the recent interview on Faux he said that he gave the job to Sessions out of a seance of loyalty but that the guy could not take charge of the DOJ and if he had known that he would not have agreed to obstruct justice, he wold not have nominated him.

While his true believers are whispering about loyalty to the president requirement.

It was as Franklin said "a republic, if you can keep it"
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by Daryl   » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:51 pm

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According to Stormy he should be called 2 minute Don. Hell, even my lawn mower is a four stroke.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by gcomeau   » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:16 pm

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So yesterday the President of the United States publicly attacked the Attorney General EXPLICITLY for not killing criminal investigations into people solely because those people were Republican politicians.


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 8573130752

Two long running, Obama era, investigations of two very popular Republican Congressmen were brought to a well publicized charge, just ahead of the Mid-Terms, by the Jeff Sessions Justice Department. Two easy wins now in doubt because there is not enough time. Good job Jeff......


Let's hear how it is somehow ok for the president to be making public declarations that politicians of his own party should be immune to criminal prosecution from our resident Trump apologists.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by Michael Everett   » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:14 pm

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It would seem that the reporter Bob Woodward is publishing a new book (due out next Tuesday as of the time of writing) which in and of itself isn't all that surprising as he has published several of which a dozen have hit the best-selling non-fiction charts.

This one, however, is titled "Fear: Trump In The White House" and it must be accurate since even before it's hit the shops, the Trump Administration has declared it to be "nothing more than fabricated stories."
And as we all know, if the Trump Administration tries to actively bash something, there must be a reason for it.

The BBC article on the upcoming book explored some to the claims in the book, including how the White House administration actively concealed documents from Trump in order to curb his more dangerous impulses and a comment that Trump's understanding of America's foreign policy is equivalent to the average fifth or sixth grader (kid of 11 or 12 for all us non-Americans).
Given the average American kid's (near-total lack of) knowledge of the world beyond America's shores, this is... rather worrying.

The fallout will be quite fascinating.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by The E   » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:42 am

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Michael Everett wrote:The fallout will be quite fascinating.


Indeed. Already, the Trumpet is hard at work discrediting it.

Of course, because he's Trump, he can't do it without lying about himself.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by edgeworthy   » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:26 am

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Surely the first entry in the Presidential Handbook is "That under no circumstances should you ever, and we mean never ever, get into a fight with Woodward and Bernstein!
It is going to end badly regardless of the circumstances, and make you at best look like a colossal tool. Historically they have a better track record, if there is any journalistic source that is completely un-impeachable on the subject of Presidential inadequacy it is them. Have you not seen All the President's Men?"
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by gcomeau   » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:17 am

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This is probably worse than the Woodward book.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opin ... tance.html

That is a senior White House official sounding the alarm that there are entire groups of people inside this administration who are maintaining their jobs there only for the purposes of trying to keep Trump from destroying the country. It is full of a point by point deconstruction of everything that makes Trump simply unfit for office.

Some of the more damning highlights...

The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.


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In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.


Note, that is small "d" democratic. As in, anti-democracy. Something that has been pointed out in these forums time after time and laughed off as left wing hysteria by certain apologists on this forum. Now here it is from inside hiw own admin...

Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.

“There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.


Yeah that's what you want in the leader of the country... "half baked ill informed" reckless impulsiveness that he just throws out and then changes on a whim at any minute.

Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.


Another point made on these forums and dismissed by his apologists as unfounded.


Etc....

The summary of the article, which I don't think the author necessarily intended to communicate, is that America is being led by a completely unfit ignorant unstable tantrum throwing man child who has leanings towards wanting to be a dictator... but don't worry his staff is sabotaging all his impulses wherever they can, covering for him, and often just plain ignoring the ranting crybaby they are babysitting to keep in power as a figurehead and setting their own agenda so they can get tax breaks and stuff...


He should have been impeached a freaking year ago.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by gcomeau   » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:48 pm

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The real damning part of that op-ed?


A senior official in the White House wrote a piece for publication flat out calling Trump unfit for office and basically a lying dangerously unstable amoral dictator loving moron...


....and I don't think they can even narrow it down to less than 50 likely suspects for who wrote it.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by Annachie   » Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:04 pm

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It's Pence.

Or someone trying to be clever and implicate him.
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