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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by biochem   » Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:49 pm

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gcomeau wrote:On the same day Russia took advantage of a loophole in Interpol oversight to get Bill Browder's name added to an international watch list (after Interpol rejected their attempts the last 4 times they tried to use it as a political weapon) the US apparently revoked Browder's visa status.

This is the human rights advocate that was a big part of getting the Magnitsky act passed....

Way to not look like you're in Putin's pocket Trump administration... :roll:


Actually that was the swamp not Trump's people. It's now been undone.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by The E   » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:14 am

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biochem wrote:Actually that was the swamp not Trump's people. It's now been undone.


Which swamp would that be? The one Trump was supposed to drain, or the new one he made?
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by The E   » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:17 am

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Meanwhile, remember how Clinton was bad and evil because of all those relationships she had with Goldman Sachs et al? And how the Trumpet was supposed to be better?

Guess who just removed the right of consumers to sue their banks. Here's a hint: It wasn't a former New York Senator who used to be First Lady of the US.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by pappilon   » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:37 am

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Seems when he issued his much vaunted travel ban, he unintentionally omitted Uzbecistan.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by Daryl   » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:59 am

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I'm wondering how in the Virginia election Ed Gillespie went from being Trump's best buddy and highly regarded to a useless bum who didn't follow the Great Leader closely enough, all in a day?
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by biochem   » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:43 am

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Daryl wrote:I'm wondering how in the Virginia election Ed Gillespie went from being Trump's best buddy and highly regarded to a useless bum who didn't follow the Great Leader closely enough, all in a day?


Trump's gigantic ego at work. The problem in Virginia is that it has become a blue state. The suburbs outside of Washington DC are Democrat and have grown to be so heavily populated that they are dominating the Virginia electoral process. This ticks off the rest of Virginia but the newcomers outnumber them. Given the population differential and Democratic population, it should have been a huge Democratic victory, instead it was a close victory due to the Democratic cantidate's lousy campaign. Trump would love to have it be all about him but although he came up as an issue but it was more about demographic shifts than anything else. Also affected the legislature, those growing suburbs swallowed up some formerly Republican seats and the newcomers turned those blue as well. Trump just can't stand to have anything be about anything but himself.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by gcomeau   » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:55 am

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biochem wrote:
Daryl wrote:I'm wondering how in the Virginia election Ed Gillespie went from being Trump's best buddy and highly regarded to a useless bum who didn't follow the Great Leader closely enough, all in a day?


Trump's gigantic ego at work. The problem in Virginia is that it has become a blue state. The suburbs outside of Washington DC are Democrat and have grown to be so heavily populated that they are dominating the Virginia electoral process. This ticks off the rest of Virginia but the newcomers outnumber them. Given the population differential and Democratic population, it should have been a huge Democratic victory, instead it was a close victory due to the Democratic cantidate's lousy campaign.


Yeah right.

Nobody thought that making up the GOP advantage in the state house was even a possibility this election. NOBODY. Because Virginia is one of the most biased gerrymandered states there are.

The last two elections for the state house went like this:

2013: GOP 67 seats, Dem 33 seats
2015: GOP 66 seats: Dem 34 seats

Democrats didn't even bother contesting 44 of the 100 districts in the last election they were so freaking rigged. They just gave up 44% of the state house out of the gate because there was nobody they could field who could take the seat anyway. So don't give us this "oh it's such a heavily democratic state they should have done so much better but they suck at campaigning" bull. Any claim that anyone thought the Dems should have walked away with the state house this time because of whatever claimed demographic shifts occurred in the last *2 years* is laughably absurd.

This was a seismic shift in Virginia state voting. And it was all about Trump and the crap he's pulling. Especially with health care. He brought pissed off candidates out of the woodwork to challenge all these seats in red districts. No name nobodies taking out incumbent politicians.



(Of course, NOW Virginia is going to go a lot more heavily blue since at the very least they just guaranteed the next redistricting will happen with a Dem governor, who can veto any highly biased gerrymandered maps. Which is how the GOP was keeping control of the state house in the first place.)


Trump would love to have it be all about him but although he came up as an issue but it was more about demographic shifts than anything else. Also affected the legislature, those growing suburbs swallowed up some formerly Republican seats and the newcomers turned those blue as well. Trump just can't stand to have anything be about anything but himself.


The LAST thing Trump wants is for people to see this gigantic loss as "all about him" which is why he tried to pin it on Gillespie as soon as he figured out what a disaster it was last night.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by biochem   » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:39 am

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gcomeau wrote:
Nobody thought that making up the GOP advantage in the state house was even a possibility this election. NOBODY. Because Virginia is one of the most biased gerrymandered states there are.

The last two elections for the state house went like this:

2013: GOP 67 seats, Dem 33 seats
2015: GOP 66 seats: Dem 34 seats

Democrats didn't even bother contesting 44 of the 100 districts in the last election they were so freaking rigged. They just gave up 44% of the state house out of the gate because there was nobody they could field who could take the seat anyway. So don't give us this "oh it's such a heavily democratic state they should have done so much better but they suck at campaigning" bull. Any claim that anyone thought the Dems should have walked away with the state house this time because of whatever claimed demographic shifts occurred in the last *2 years* is laughably absurd.

This was a seismic shift in Virginia state voting. And it was all about Trump and the crap he's pulling. Especially with health care. He brought pissed off candidates out of the woodwork to challenge all these seats in red districts. No name nobodies taking out incumbent politicians.



(Of course, NOW Virginia is going to go a lot more heavily blue since at the very least they just guaranteed the next redistricting will happen with a Dem governor, who can veto any highly biased gerrymandered maps. Which is how the GOP was keeping control of the state house in the first place.)

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You are falling into the same overexhuberant trap the Republican pundits were in after Georgia. Take a step back and calm down.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by biochem   » Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:47 am

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gcomeau wrote:
The LAST thing Trump wants is for people to see this gigantic loss as "all about him" which is why he tried to pin it on Gillespie as soon as he figured out what a disaster it was last night.
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Trumps solution to the problem was typical Trump - me, me, me. If only he had been more associated with me. Trump doesn't see or care about the non-Trump issues (primarily demographic changes) that were driving the race.
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Re: What has Pres. Trump done wrong so far.
Post by The E   » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:13 am

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Daryl wrote:I'm wondering how in the Virginia election Ed Gillespie went from being Trump's best buddy and highly regarded to a useless bum who didn't follow the Great Leader closely enough, all in a day?


This is a classic scheme. Tell people to do this and that thing and guarantee success if they do it exactly right. Then, when success fails to materialize because what you were telling people to do is complete horseshit, blame it on those people's inability to follow your lead. This works for any number of folks, from prosperity gospel preachers (if you're successful, praise the Lord! If you're not, blame yourself) to sovereign citizens (Here are the magic incantations you have to utter in court to get out of payments you don't want to make! Landed in jail for contempt of court? Well, you should've followed the incantations correctly!).
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