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Re: Stuff you just can't make up
Post by pappilon   » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:16 am

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Eyal wrote: This case is particularly puzzling to me. I mean, there should be plenty of experienced judges wanting an appointment to the Federal bench, and no doubt there are a number with sufficient conservative credentials - who him of all people?


Trump is locked into an "Antonin Scalia" mindset. Scalia is the epitome of conservative judicial activism. Bible Based jurisprudence is the new conservative thing under the guise of "originalism. The neo-reformation of constitutional jurisprudence.
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Re: Stuff you just can't make up
Post by gcomeau   » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:19 pm

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http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/26/sta ... ns-office/

So.... incompetence or deliberate sabotage?
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Re: Stuff you just can't make up
Post by gcomeau   » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:39 pm

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Eyal wrote:
gcomeau wrote:The GOP members of the Senate Judiciary committee just voted to give a lifetime appointment to the Federal Bench to a Trump judicial nominee who:

*Has only had a law degree for 3 years.
*Has NEVER actually tried a case.
*Was declared unqualified to be a judge by the Bar Association.


But he did have what the GOP apparently considers to be the only qualification that counts. He's Republican. That totally qualifies you to be a lifelong Federal Judge right?

Party over country, on display on a daily basis. They aren't even pretending to give a crap about anything but partisan politics anymore.


This case is particularly puzzling to me. I mean, there should be plenty of experienced judges wanting an appointment to the Federal bench, and no doubt there are a number with sufficient conservative credentials - who him of all people?



Well this sheds some light on it...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/13/us/p ... .html?_r=0

"One of President Trump’s most controversial judicial nominees did not disclose on publicly available congressional documents that he is married to a senior lawyer in the White House Counsel’s Office.

The nominee, Brett J. Talley, is awaiting a Senate confirmation vote that could come as early as Monday to become a federal district judge in Alabama. He is married to Ann Donaldson, the chief of staff to the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II.

Mr. Talley was asked on his publicly released Senate questionnaire to identify family members and others who are “likely to present potential conflicts of interest.” He did not mention his wife.
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Re: Stuff you just can't make up
Post by Annachie   » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:57 am

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Surely that's an immediate down vote for him.
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Re: Stuff you just can't make up
Post by dscott8   » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:51 am

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Annachie wrote:Surely that's an immediate down vote for him.


I hate to see an optimist disappointed, but the doctrinare mindset and cronyism in the Senate will probably make this yet another vote in which Pence breaks the tie in favor of party power over justice.
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Re: Stuff you just can't make up
Post by Daryl   » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:39 am

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Meanwhile back in Australia, our own Trump lite female Senator addressing our Senate on the vote to ratify same sex marriage, stated that, "Already 11% of Australian school children go home each night to a gay household". Our official government stats have that at 0.25%, which is what a reasonable person would expect. So only 44 times out, about standard for Pauline.
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Re: Stuff you just can't make up
Post by Annachie   » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:09 am

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Daryl wrote:Meanwhile back in Australia, our own Trump lite female Senator addressing our Senate on the vote to ratify same sex marriage, stated that, "Already 11% of Australian school children go home each night to a gay household". Our official government stats have that at 0.25%, which is what a reasonable person would expect. So only 44 times out, about standard for Pauline.
She's more of a Sarah Palin. But not as bright.
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Re: Stuff you just can't make up
Post by Michael Everett   » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:00 pm

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Daryl wrote:Meanwhile back in Australia, our own Trump lite female Senator addressing our Senate on the vote to ratify same sex marriage, stated that, "Already 11% of Australian school children go home each night to a gay household". Our official government stats have that at 0.25%, which is what a reasonable person would expect. So only 44 times out, about standard for Pauline.

I wonder if someone could prompt her into campaigning against Women's Suffrage?
The sheer number of facepalms resulting could, if harnessed properly, potentially power Australia...
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Re: Stuff you just can't make up
Post by gcomeau   » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:08 pm

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Remember when Republicans were outraged and horrified at the terribly recklessly dangerous conduct of Democrats rushing Obama care through after only...

* A month in committee in the House
* Nearly 4 months of debate in the House after it left committee
* 2 weeks of markup in the Senate Health committee
* 53 Senate Finance Committee hearings
* Another 8 days of markup in the Senate Finance Committee consisting of 130 considered amendments and 79 roll call votes
* 44 Senate hearings and public events about the bill
* And a grand total of 8 MONTHS of public work and debate and voting and consideration on the bill before finally passing it?


So far this year those same guys tried to do their own overhaul of the entire health care system without even knowing what they wee voting on, with no public hearings or debate, with a matter of *days* between cobbling together legislative packages on the fly nobody even understood the content of.... and are now trying to do the same thing to the tax code. So hastily and recklessly slapped together that most people voting on it can't say what is in it, and they got blindsided by the Senate Parliamentarian just now who told them AS THEY WERE TRYING TO VOTE ON IT that the bill wouldn't even work under Senate rules. They didn't know.

They found out TODAY, the day they were trying to get to a vote on it, that even their own house committee projections say their bill falls 1 TRILLION dollars short of claimed economic growth effects.

It came out TODAY that the Treasury Secretary is withholding Treasury analysis of the effects of the bill because they have been incapable of generating an analysis using ANY credible attempted assumptions that says the bill will do anything like what they claimed it would so they're just refusing to issue a report at all.



We need a phrase better than "Recklessly Dangerous Hypocrites" to describe these people. That is a sever understatement.

This is an attempted heist. Looting the nation's wealth to create a payday for their richest donors.
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Re: Stuff you just can't make up
Post by gcomeau   » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:52 pm

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gcomeau wrote:Remember when Republicans were outraged and horrified at the terribly recklessly dangerous conduct of Democrats rushing Obama care through after only...

* A month in committee in the House
* Nearly 4 months of debate in the House after it left committee
* 2 weeks of markup in the Senate Health committee
* 53 Senate Finance Committee hearings
* Another 8 days of markup in the Senate Finance Committee consisting of 130 considered amendments and 79 roll call votes
* 44 Senate hearings and public events about the bill
* And a grand total of 8 MONTHS of public work and debate and voting and consideration on the bill before finally passing it?


So far this year those same guys tried to do their own overhaul of the entire health care system without even knowing what they wee voting on, with no public hearings or debate, with a matter of *days* between cobbling together legislative packages on the fly nobody even understood the content of.... and are now trying to do the same thing to the tax code. So hastily and recklessly slapped together that most people voting on it can't say what is in it, and they got blindsided by the Senate Parliamentarian just now who told them AS THEY WERE TRYING TO VOTE ON IT that the bill wouldn't even work under Senate rules. They didn't know.

They found out TODAY, the day they were trying to get to a vote on it, that even their own house committee projections say their bill falls 1 TRILLION dollars short of claimed economic growth effects.

It came out TODAY that the Treasury Secretary is withholding Treasury analysis of the effects of the bill because they have been incapable of generating an analysis using ANY credible attempted assumptions that says the bill will do anything like what they claimed it would so they're just refusing to issue a report at all.



We need a phrase better than "Recklessly Dangerous Hypocrites" to describe these people. That is a sever understatement.

This is an attempted heist. Looting the nation's wealth to create a payday for their richest donors.


And after their little snafu with the Parliamentarian today they are now rewriting the bill on the fly to try and bring it to a vote by tomorrow.

To be clear. They are still trying to schedule a vote on a bill TOMORROW that will have over a TRILLION dollars of impact on the national economy and they don't even know what the final contents of that bill will be yet. It hasn't been scored. They don't understand the effects. But they expect to pass it anyway because.... because they said they need to for reasons!!! And the Republican Senators better fall in line! That's why!



This is a circus, where the fiscal health of the entire country hangs in the balance.
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