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A predictable pattern for politicians?
Post by DDHvi   » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:07 pm

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The Real Nature of Politics lecture teaches that when you start pressuring a politician there will be a predictable progression of behaviors designed to get you to quit pressuring them - without them taking action.


The article about this states they 1)start by ignoring you, 2) then provide an "explanation" that doesn't explain how their actions benefit them, 3) whine about us being "unreasonable," 4) try to buy us with "help" that doesn't work, 5) go on the attack, and 6) finally quit trying to avoid change. They give a recent historical example of this process.

They comment that too often, we don't have the persistence needed for us to require that politicians really represent us, instead of special interests. We lose by default.

Comments? Does this apply in any case(s) you know? Is it like this in non-USA countries
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Re: A predictable pattern for politicians?
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:53 pm

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DDHvi wrote:
The Real Nature of Politics lecture teaches that when you start pressuring a politician there will be a predictable progression of behaviors designed to get you to quit pressuring them - without them taking action.


The article about this states they 1)start by ignoring you, 2) then provide an "explanation" that doesn't explain how their actions benefit them, 3) whine about us being "unreasonable," 4) try to buy us with "help" that doesn't work, 5) go on the attack, and 6) finally quit trying to avoid change. They give a recent historical example of this process.

They comment that too often, we don't have the persistence needed for us to require that politicians really represent us, instead of special interests. We lose by default.

Comments? Does this apply in any case(s) you know? Is it like this in non-USA countries
:?:


It looks like the step where they have their staffer get the contact information which the answer only with form letters and "touchy feel good" PR information about the votes they made ((on generally useless touchy feel good bills that do nothing))

It is a frustration that the government has been subverted away from their responsibility to defend the constitution from all enemies and they forgot that public service is service of the public.
Just my 2 ₡ worth
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Re: A predictable pattern for politicians?
Post by Daryl   » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:42 pm

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Then there's the mirror response, "I'll look into it".
Another is to set up a committee or inquiry to report back in the future.
You know that when a politician says "That's a very interesting question", they don't have a clue and will waffle about anything else.
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Re: A predictable pattern for politicians?
Post by C. O. Thompson   » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:36 pm

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Daryl wrote:Then there's the mirror response, "I'll look into it".
Another is to set up a committee or inquiry to report back in the future.
You know that when a politician says "That's a very interesting question", they don't have a clue and will waffle about anything else.


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I guess this is another way that politicians are like the other facet of the oldest occupation... they both give great lip service as the promise you the moon
Just my 2 ₡ worth
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