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Re: Political one liners
Post by DDHvi   » Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:43 pm

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The disparate reactions to the Oregon school shooting and the Afghanistan hospital bombing shows the political class is unwilling and unable to acknowledge that the US government cannot run the world, run our lives, or run the economy.


The politicians speak about transparency and accountability. Now if only they had to actually do these :!: :(

They speak a lot about freedom also, while at the same time increasing the bureaucracy and crony capitalism.


And just because we don't -- and can't -- live in perfect consistency with our ideals, that is not an argument against the ideals themselves.


Someone noted that a perfectionist often fails to act, while a person who has poorly chosen standards tends to be adrift and thus wanders.

My ideal is to have good test methods for all ideas. Examples: for repeating things; the scientific method of repeated experimentation, observation, and probability math. For non-repeating things; historical and judicial methods of observation, evaluation to see if we have good records, and analysis of the reliability of witnesses. For everything, making as sure as possible that whatever statement describes the idea does connect with reality, so it can be tested along the true/false axis. Very hard to check with many politicians statements :!: :(

Ideas are interesting, but no idea should be accepted without solid vetting using reality based methods.

Unfortunately, in most cases, we must rely on other people's observations, and many make the mistake of testing by conformity with another idea without making certain the other idea is reality based. I read a report on a study of the reliability of experiments in the social studies that said they couldn't get repeatable results in around 40% of the experiments studied. However, method of sample choice and sample size were not mentioned :o .
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Re: Political one liners
Post by Imaginos1892   » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:22 pm

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You will never get good results from anything where those making the decisions don't have to pay the bills.

All that "free stuff" the government gives away it first has to take from somebody.
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Re: Political one liners
Post by DDHvi   » Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:34 pm

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If what a man claims happened at college many years ago is important for Carson, then it’s important for Obama, too.


From:
http://personalliberty.com/ben-carson-v ... -politics/

But Obama's records have been sealed for seven years now. Sarcasm alert: Of course, he is such a truthful man there is no need to check the records :lol: End sarcasm.

Don’t wait on your government to take care of you, they’ll never get around to it!

From an ad.

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Re: Political one liners
Post by gcomeau   » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:42 pm

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DDHvi wrote:
If what a man claims happened at college many years ago is important for Carson, then it’s important for Obama, too.


From:
http://personalliberty.com/ben-carson-v ... -politics/

But Obama's records have been sealed for seven years now. Sarcasm alert: Of course, he is such a truthful man there is no need to check the records :lol: End sarcasm.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/
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Re: Political one liners
Post by DDHvi   » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:21 pm

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gcomeau wrote:
DDHvi wrote:"If what a man claims happened at college many years ago is important for Carson, then it’s important for Obama, too."
From:
http://personalliberty.com/ben-carson-v ... -politics/

But Obama's records have been sealed for seven years now. Sarcasm alert: Of course, he is such a truthful man there is no need to check the records :lol: End sarcasm.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/


Thank you. I'm going to look over that factcheck.org.

PS. My assumption is that any search for truth takes the form of approximations to reality, with corrections from facts. The problem is that none of us can personally experience everything, and one of the arguments for original sin being real is that there is no need to teach children to lie. Although some seem to make lying a major part of their life ;)
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Re: Political one liners
Post by DDHvi   » Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:26 am

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Imaginos1892 wrote:
You will never get good results from anything where those making the decisions don't have to pay the bills.


All that "free stuff" the government gives away it first has to take from somebody.


Only in the bizarre world of delegating legislative power could members of Congress lead a march in protest against the consequences of a law they voted for.


From:
"Our Lost Constitution" by Senator Mike Lee.

Well worth reading, and easy reading also.

One way where those making the decisions don't have to pay the bills is to delegate the making of rules and regulations to bureaucrats who don't stand for election. The congressmen, who do so stand, then can be very indignant at the bureaucrats, instead of actually legislating and being held accountable.

You should note that the (probably illegal under the constitution of the US) bills delegating the legislative power, for some reason, don't include provisions holding the bureaucrats accountable for the results of their decisions.

Tuesday’s elections are the latest in a troubling trend of polls predicting one thing and voters doing something completely different.
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Left to their own devices, politicians are not particularly good at estimating prevailing public opinion. Neither, for the most part, are journalists.


Why does the media tend to tell us what we think, instead of supplying the facts and letting us make up our own minds? Perhaps our habit of absorbing what is interesting instead of what fits reality might have something to do with this?

Just as obviously, established politicians and the mainstream media stand to benefit most from demonizing money spent by private citizens to support the candidates and causes that they choose.


Hmmm. :roll:
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Re: Political one liners
Post by DDHvi   » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:57 pm

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At any given moment, what’s most likely to cause social media outlets like Twitter to explode isn’t a humanitarian crisis, a natural disaster, or a critical political issue—it’s a celebrity feud or some other pop culture story.


So our culture has become superficial? How sad :shock:


We live in a grotesquely over-regulated and over-lawyered world, where it is estimated that there are so many laws that we each commit three felonies a day.


TANJ :!:
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Re: Political one liners
Post by Imaginos1892   » Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:47 pm

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The worst thing about government: there is no mechanism to weed out the bad and stupid ideas. No government program can be allowed to fail, even when it does.
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Re: Political one liners
Post by Daryl   » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:22 am

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Imaginos1892 wrote:The worst thing about government: there is no mechanism to weed out the bad and stupid ideas. No government program can be allowed to fail, even when it does.


The mechanism includes a free press, opinion polls, a strong opposition, and elections. Called democracy.
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Re: Political one liners
Post by biochem   » Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:45 am

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Daryl wrote:
Imaginos1892 wrote:The worst thing about government: there is no mechanism to weed out the bad and stupid ideas. No government program can be allowed to fail, even when it does.


The mechanism includes a free press, opinion polls, a strong opposition, and elections. Called democracy.


That's of limited effectiveness since government contains a very high percentage of bureaucratium.

"
A new ultra-heavy element was recently accidently synthesized by political scientists. The new element, now known officially as Bureaucratium, is electrically neutral, having neither protons nor electrons, and thus has an atomic number of zero. However, it does have:

1 bossion
75 vice-bossions
111 assistant vice-bossions
125 associate assistant vice-bossions

It thus has an atomic mass of -312. The 312 mostly empty particles are held together by a strong, cohesive bonding force which involves the continuous exchange of clingon-like elementary particles called brownoseons.

Since it is electrically neutral, Bureacratium is chemically inert. However, it can be detected indirectly by its ability to impede nearly every action with which it comes in contact. In fact it was precisely this characteristic (and its unexpected appearance) which led the research team to its serendipitous discovery, when it found that a certain reaction which is normally exothermic and occurs in under one millisecond was observed to be endothermic, with an energy input 3500 times greater than normal, and took four days to complete.

Bureacratium is a man-made element and does not occur naturally. It apparently is formed as a by-product of necrotic organizational processes. It is found in greatest abundance in government agencies, large corporations, large non-profit organizations and academia. In extremely minute amounts it may actually serve a useful purpose in normal reactions by catalyzing the full release and exchange of energy among the reactive particles. However, in the typical growth process, Bureacratium seems to self-replicate at an alarming rate, eventually repelling, although occasionally absorbing, reactive particles. If left unchecked Bureaucratium will experience runaway growth and literally feed upon itself and absorb nearby organisms.

Unlike both naturally occurring and man-made radioactive substances which decay continuously due to their nuclear instability, Bureaucratium, although also unstable, undergoes self-replication with a normal doubling time of about nine years. This replication appears to occur as a discrete process rather than continuously, and is associated with periodic reorganizations which occur at more-or-less regular time intervals of approximately three years. At these times, vice bossions, assistant vice-bossions, and associate assistant vice-bossions exchange places, and roughly 1/6 of them generate additional Half-Secretarium particles, which soon quietly and mysteriously mutate to become Full-Secretarium particles.

Bureaucratium undergoes spontaneous chain reactions once it attains critical mass, at which point it is no longer controllable and consumes its host system along with itself. However, unlike nuclear fission and fusion reactions which are exothermic and release vast amounts of energy at criticality, Bureaucratium induces an endothermic process of fractionation and energy diffusion in which the system spins about itself in ever diminishing circles as it implodes, consuming vast amounts of energy. At this point, all productive reactions among non-Bureaucratium particles, as well as replication and mutation of Bureaucratium itself, cease as the system slowly disintegrates. Indeed, it has been found that Bureaucratium apparently cannot exist alone, having been found only in the presence of active particles from which it absorbs energy not unlike a parasite.

Research is currently underway to determine how Bureaucratium can be harnessed or controlled to prevent irreversible damage to productive host systems.

Results to date, however, are not promising. "
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