cthia wrote:Daryl wrote:..snip..
A final point is that US statistics show that "illegals" on average are more law abiding than citizens, as they have the double threat of deportation.
The danger of foreigners wielding the power of the internet on American politics is insane.
Daryl, if they are
illegals, how exactly are they law abiding?
Even a foreigners disconnect is . . . disconnected.
I keep repeating myself. Unqualified statistics hogs who utilize the internet in search of statistics but can't accurately digest it is simply spouting slop.
Accurately digesting statistics is a lucrative career called marketing. Repeat. Rinse. Repeat.
Joat42 wrote:The number of crimes done by immigrants or "illegal aliens" are on average less than what an US citizen commits. Since they are committing fewer crimes they are in fact more law abiding exactly as Daryl wrote.
So I can only conclude that you didn't understand what Daryl wrote or that you intentionally misconstrued his statement to fit your faulty argument.
The only disconnect here is yours. Your view seems to be that no one except US citizens can understand US politics which in this instance has ZERO relevance on what Daryl wrote.
And statistics is a wonderful tool to prove to people that they are wrong. They usually hate it which is kind of fun to point out - especially since they tend to denigrate, diminish and explain away the usage of statistics. I didn't think you belonged in that category of people Cthia, but you just proved me wrong.
Statistics
is a wonderful tool. For the wonderful people who know how to use it.
Faulty argument? I'm an American telling you you have no clue. You tell me that's faulty? SOB!
First off, your statistics is bullshit. Do you really think there's a handle on how many guns are in this country? Of course you do. Our government is only guestimating. THEY DON'T KNOW! Do you think they went around and counted them? Please! The number of guns that actually are in the country probably increased by a third when Trump hit office. By another third when the threat to curtail gun sales hit. By another third when the second hit. By another third when the hate crimes began. But I digress.
All of this is simply more of your arrogance and ignorance. What makes you think you have any idea what's really going on? The US is the big kid on the block and other nations want to try and reason out their problems. You can't. And no, you don't know what's going on in American politics. Each time you speak it's evident.
Let's take illegal aliens. You have NO earthly idea the amount of problems and headaches are caused by illegal aliens in this country. It is true that illegal aliens have received grants, professional accreditations, loans, WIC, disability, public housing, college educations, food stamps, unemployment benefits, and tax credits from state and federal agencies. Emergency medical care. Taking away these things from legal citizens. My sister is pissed because of the strain they put on the health care system. She's a surgeon. Which is a mess because of illegal aliens.
When illegal aliens pour into this country, they come in hordes. Forget about the phucking statistic you read that they don't commit crimes. I know for a fact what their MO is. When first entering the country, when there ARE no records of them, when there are no paper trails of them, when they aren't in the system yet, they commit crimes! They call it their "grace" period. They are broke and in need of cash. Their first few weeks are crime sprees to get on their feet. This is straight from their own mouths! I used to go out in disenfranchised neighborhoods volunteering to help alleviate problems. You gain their trust. You learn much. You people are as gullible as the crap you get off the internet. Most illegal aliens become squatters their first weeks, breaking and entering into vacation homes, private and commercial properties, abandoned homes. I've got a friend who constantly fights the problem on his rental properties! And our laws want to hold
him responsible for injuries caused on his properties involving illegal aliens. . .squatting.
Do us both a favor and do us both a favor. Sheesh!
But all that's just the tip of the iceberg. What about the horror stories about American citizens being caught between insurance companies who won't pay because Company A hired an illegal alien, or Company B did this involving illegal aliens, etc., etc., etc., which was against the rules, and said illegal alien is responsible for causing an American citizen to lose his leg while driving a forklift. Result, American without a leg and no compensation. The company got slapped hard, but what about the man and his lost leg? There are many insurance cases I've heard about where hapless Americans are caught in the middle of problems caused by illegal aliens. I have a brother whose best friend's father lost his entire company because he was involved with an illegal alien, which he had no idea. The IRS doesn't care. One of my friends neighborhoods was hit hard by tuberculosis cause by illegal aliens. When they recovered, they were hit again by influenza, losing a small child to that one. Then they were hit again by Chagas and the West Nike Virus before all of it was tracked down to a family of illegals. Not a problem, don't commit any crimes? Tell that to that unfortunate very affluent neighborhood and the small child killed, and the American citizen who has lost a leg without compensation. Tell it to the families who lost jobs during the 3 months they were so sick. What the hell makes you people think you know what's really going on in the US? And you're adamant about it too. Your flavor of arrogance is appalling.
Internet Americans. Gees! I live here people. I don't get my facts off the internet.
And this subject of guns? You have no phucking idea.