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Scandal-free Obama and family
Post by cthia   » Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:18 am

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Scandal-free Obama and family

During Obama's administration, what most people in my circles talked about a lot was the lack of a scandal. What the author of the site I posted misses is that the scandal most people are concerned with is the personal skeletons inside a President's closet. Things like:

Is he a faithful husband? Or does he have his own Monica Lewinsky under his table? This seems to be the number one scandal that destroys politicians faster than they can zip their fly. History is full of sex scandals of either the President, his offspring or his closest relatives. There's always a sex scandal. North Carolina's candidate for senator Cal Cunningham just got busted very recently and embarrassed his entire family. My heart goes out to his wife and kids. But not the Obamas. No sex scandal anywhere to be found there.

No sex scandal? Then there must be a drug scandal. Either the President or his immediate family. None there? Then dirty ball playing politicians will find an estranged drug addicted family member. None of those were found in Obama's family either.

In fact, Obama was so clean the only thing left to attack was the veracity of his citizenship! Little did the dirty politicians know that that was an admission that this American President is so clean that he has to be too good to be true. Meaning, he isn't even American. LOL

The so called scandals of his administration are the price of doing business on the planet. Most are not scandals at all. They are simply complaints.

Whether his administration was free of scandal or not. Obama and his family certainly are. I don't recall that ever happening in my time on Earth.


Hans von Spakovsky is an authority on a wide range of issues – including civil rights, civil justice, the First Amendment, immigration.


You often hear that the Obama administration, whatever its other failings, has been “scandal-free.” Valerie Jarrett, the president’s closest adviser, has said he “prides himself on the fact that his administration hasn’t had a scandal and he hasn’t done something to embarrass himself.”

Even Trump adviser Peter Thiel seems to agree. When the New York Times’s Maureen Dowd observed during an interview that Mr. Obama’s administration was “without any ethical shadiness,” Mr. Thiel accepted the premise, saying: “But there’s a point where no corruption can be a bad thing. It can mean that things are too boring.”

In reality, Mr. Obama has presided over some of the worst scandals of any president in recent decades. Here’s a partial list:

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• State Department email. In an effort to evade federal open-records laws, Mr. Obama’s first secretary of state set up a private server, which she used exclusively to conduct official business, including communications with the president and the transmission of classified material. A federal criminal investigation produced no charges, but FBI Director James Comey reported that the secretary and her colleagues “were extremely careless” in handling national secrets.

• Operation Fast and Furious. The Obama Justice Department lost track of thousands of guns it had allowed to pass into the hands of suspected smugglers, in the hope of tracing them to Mexican drug cartels. One of the guns was used in the fatal 2010 shooting of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry. Congress held then-Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt when he refused to turn over documents about the operation.

• IRS abuses. Mr. Obama’s Internal Revenue Service did something Richard Nixon only dreamed of doing: It successfully targeted political opponents. The Justice Department then refused to enforce Congress’s contempt citation against the IRS’s Lois Lerner, who refused to answer questions about her agency’s misconduct.

• Benghazi. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others were killed in the attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Libya. With less than two months to go before the 2012 election, the State Department falsely claimed the attack was not a terrorist attack but a reaction to an anti-Muslim film. Emails from the secretary later showed that she knew the attack was terrorism. Justice Department prosecutors even convinced a magistrate judge to jail the filmmaker.

• Hacking. Mr. Obama presided over the biggest data breach in the federal government’s history, at the Office of Personnel Management. The hack exposed the personnel files of millions of federal employees and may end up being used for everything from identity theft to blackmail and espionage. OPM Director Katherine Archuleta, the president’s former political director, had been warned repeatedly about security deficiencies but took no steps to fix them.

• Veterans Affairs. At least 40 U.S. veterans died waiting for appointments at a Phoenix VA facility, many of whom had been on a secret waiting list—part of an effort to conceal that between 1,400 and 1,600 veterans were forced to wait months for appointments. A 2014 internal VA audit found “57,436 newly enrolled veterans facing a minimum 90-day wait for medical care; 63,869 veterans who enrolled over the past decade requesting an appointment that never happened.” Even Mr. Obama admitted, in a November 2016 press conference, that “it was scandalous what happened”—though minutes earlier he boasted that “we will—knock on wood—leave this administration without significant scandal.”

All of these scandals were accompanied by a lack of transparency so severe that 47 of Mr. Obama’s 73 inspectors general signed an open letter in 2014 decrying the administration’s stonewalling of their investigations.

One reason for Mr. Obama’s penchant for secrecy is his habit of breaking rules—from not informing Congress of the dubious prisoner swap involving Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl and the Taliban, to violating restrictions on cash transfers to Iran as part of a hostage-release deal.

The president’s journalistic allies are happily echoing the “scandal-free” myth. Time’s Joe Klein claims Mr. Obama has had “absolutely no hint of scandal” in his presidency. The media’s failure to cover the Obama administration critically has been a scandal in itself—but at least the president can’t be blamed for that one.

This piece originally appeared in The Wall Street Journal

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Re: Scandal-free Obama and family
Post by n7axw   » Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:13 pm

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cthia wrote:Scandal-free Obama and family

During Obama's administration, what most people in my circles talked about a lot was the lack of a scandal. What the author of the site I posted misses is that the scandal most people are concerned with is the personal skeletons inside a President's closet. Things like:

Is he a faithful husband? Or does he have his own Monica Lewinsky under his table? This seems to be the number one scandal that destroys politicians faster than they can zip their fly. History is full of sex scandals of either the President, his offspring or his closest relatives. There's always a sex scandal. North Carolina's candidate for senator Cal Cunningham just got busted very recently and embarrassed his entire family. My heart goes out to his wife and kids. But not the Obamas. No sex scandal anywhere to be found there.

No sex scandal? Then there must be a drug scandal. Either the President or his immediate family. None there? Then dirty ball playing politicians will find an estranged drug addicted family member. None of those were found in Obama's family either.

In fact, Obama was so clean the only thing left to attack was the veracity of his citizenship! Little did the dirty politicians know that that was an admission that this American President is so clean that he has to be too good to be true. Meaning, he isn't even American. LOL

The so called scandals of his administration are the price of doing business on the planet. Most are not scandals at all. They are simply complaints.

Whether his administration was free of scandal or not. Obama and his family certainly are. I don't recall that ever happening in my time on Earth.


Hans von Spakovsky is an authority on a wide range of issues – including civil rights, civil justice, the First Amendment, immigration.


You often hear that the Obama administration, whatever its other failings, has been “scandal-free.” Valerie Jarrett, the president’s closest adviser, has said he “prides himself on the fact that his administration hasn’t had a scandal and he hasn’t done something to embarrass himself.”

Even Trump adviser Peter Thiel seems to agree. When the New York Times’s Maureen Dowd observed during an interview that Mr. Obama’s administration was “without any ethical shadiness,” Mr. Thiel accepted the premise, saying: “But there’s a point where no corruption can be a bad thing. It can mean that things are too boring.”

In reality, Mr. Obama has presided over some of the worst scandals of any president in recent decades. Here’s a partial list:

Get exclusive insider information from Heritage experts delivered straight to your inbox each week. Subscribe to The Agenda >>

• State Department email. In an effort to evade federal open-records laws, Mr. Obama’s first secretary of state set up a private server, which she used exclusively to conduct official business, including communications with the president and the transmission of classified material. A federal criminal investigation produced no charges, but FBI Director James Comey reported that the secretary and her colleagues “were extremely careless” in handling national secrets.

• Operation Fast and Furious. The Obama Justice Department lost track of thousands of guns it had allowed to pass into the hands of suspected smugglers, in the hope of tracing them to Mexican drug cartels. One of the guns was used in the fatal 2010 shooting of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry. Congress held then-Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt when he refused to turn over documents about the operation.

• IRS abuses. Mr. Obama’s Internal Revenue Service did something Richard Nixon only dreamed of doing: It successfully targeted political opponents. The Justice Department then refused to enforce Congress’s contempt citation against the IRS’s Lois Lerner, who refused to answer questions about her agency’s misconduct.

• Benghazi. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others were killed in the attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Libya. With less than two months to go before the 2012 election, the State Department falsely claimed the attack was not a terrorist attack but a reaction to an anti-Muslim film. Emails from the secretary later showed that she knew the attack was terrorism. Justice Department prosecutors even convinced a magistrate judge to jail the filmmaker.

• Hacking. Mr. Obama presided over the biggest data breach in the federal government’s history, at the Office of Personnel Management. The hack exposed the personnel files of millions of federal employees and may end up being used for everything from identity theft to blackmail and espionage. OPM Director Katherine Archuleta, the president’s former political director, had been warned repeatedly about security deficiencies but took no steps to fix them.

• Veterans Affairs. At least 40 U.S. veterans died waiting for appointments at a Phoenix VA facility, many of whom had been on a secret waiting list—part of an effort to conceal that between 1,400 and 1,600 veterans were forced to wait months for appointments. A 2014 internal VA audit found “57,436 newly enrolled veterans facing a minimum 90-day wait for medical care; 63,869 veterans who enrolled over the past decade requesting an appointment that never happened.” Even Mr. Obama admitted, in a November 2016 press conference, that “it was scandalous what happened”—though minutes earlier he boasted that “we will—knock on wood—leave this administration without significant scandal.”

All of these scandals were accompanied by a lack of transparency so severe that 47 of Mr. Obama’s 73 inspectors general signed an open letter in 2014 decrying the administration’s stonewalling of their investigations.

One reason for Mr. Obama’s penchant for secrecy is his habit of breaking rules—from not informing Congress of the dubious prisoner swap involving Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl and the Taliban, to violating restrictions on cash transfers to Iran as part of a hostage-release deal.

The president’s journalistic allies are happily echoing the “scandal-free” myth. Time’s Joe Klein claims Mr. Obama has had “absolutely no hint of scandal” in his presidency. The media’s failure to cover the Obama administration critically has been a scandal in itself—but at least the president can’t be blamed for that one.

This piece originally appeared in The Wall Street Journal


Much of this stuff is old hat. Some it such as Benghazi investigated to death without any finding of wrongdoing.

I had the thought that there is a difference between a hiccup in the way the system works than an actual scandal. Hiccups are frequent in every administration and are always occasion for viewing wth alarm by the opposition. Scandals, on the other hand, are occasions when a politician uses his(her) position for personal gain. This latter is what I think it means to say that Obama was scandal free. I don't believe that Obama used his office for personal gain.

My final thought here is that the Wall Street Journal article is ax grinding.

Don

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Re: Scandal-free Obama and family
Post by TFLYTSNBN   » Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:52 am

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Give me a break.

Obama went to Washington DC as a relatively poor man who allegedly subsisted on the salary of an Illinois State Senator. He then gets a income increase to that of a US Senator which really isn't much when you consider the cost of housing in DC. The President of the US seems to have a nice salary until you factor in the fact that many expenses of living in the White House are paid by President rather than government. Obama leaves the Whitehouse and immediately starts buying homes. Among them is the estate that was the location for Magnum PI. He paid multiple millions of dollars for a house that he nuked.

His books didn't sell nearly this well.

As for sexual scandals and drug scandals, the media decided that any such scandals involving Obama were not scandalous. Prior use of Cocaine was almost freely admitted. Obama's alleged bisexuality and extramarital dalliances with men were of limits because that would be homophobic. The allegations that the marriage to Michael was arranged through the Reverend Wright's racist church to conceal homosexuality was a story that the politically correct media refused to cover.

The Obamas are scandal free only because almost everyone decided that behaviors that would be scandalous for everyone else were not scandalous for them.
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Re: Scandal-free Obama and family
Post by Dilandu   » Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:06 am

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:As for sexual scandals and drug scandals, the media decided that any such scandals involving Obama were not scandalous. Prior use of Cocaine was almost freely admitted. Obama's alleged bisexuality and extramarital dalliances with men were of limits because that would be homophobic. The allegations that the marriage to Michael was arranged through the Reverend Wright's racist church to conceal homosexuality was a story that the politically correct media refused to cover.


So, do you suggest that Trump could marry Obama and thus bring unity to divided parties?
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Re: Scandal-free Obama and family
Post by n7axw   » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:03 am

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:Give me a break.

Obama went to Washington DC as a relatively poor man who allegedly subsisted on the salary of an Illinois State Senator. He then gets a income increase to that of a US Senator which really isn't much when you consider the cost of housing in DC. The President of the US seems to have a nice salary until you factor in the fact that many expenses of living in the White House are paid by President rather than government. Obama leaves the Whitehouse and immediately starts buying homes. Among them is the estate that was the location for Magnum PI. He paid multiple millions of dollars for a house that he nuked.

His books didn't sell nearly this well.

As for sexual scandals and drug scandals, the media decided that any such scandals involving Obama were not scandalous. Prior use of Cocaine was almost freely admitted. Obama's alleged bisexuality and extramarital dalliances with men were of limits because that would be homophobic. The allegations that the marriage to Michael was arranged through the Reverend Wright's racist church to conceal homosexuality was a story that the politically correct media refused to cover.

The Obamas are scandal free only because almost everyone decided that behaviors that would be scandalous for everyone else were not scandalous for them.


Why am I thinking that this stuff came out of the right wing junk shop, you know, the same source that insisted that Vince Foster was murdered, who continues to make hay on Benghazi inspite of that havinng been investigated multiple times by Republicans... who found nothing?

It's like you right wingers are wiping your hands with a greasy shop towel out of that junk shop, Fly. This stuff doesn't pass the smell test.

Don

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Re: Scandal-free Obama and family
Post by cthia   » Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:56 am

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n7axw wrote:
TFLYTSNBN wrote:Give me a break.

Obama went to Washington DC as a relatively poor man who allegedly subsisted on the salary of an Illinois State Senator. He then gets a income increase to that of a US Senator which really isn't much when you consider the cost of housing in DC. The President of the US seems to have a nice salary until you factor in the fact that many expenses of living in the White House are paid by President rather than government. Obama leaves the Whitehouse and immediately starts buying homes. Among them is the estate that was the location for Magnum PI. He paid multiple millions of dollars for a house that he nuked.

His books didn't sell nearly this well.

As for sexual scandals and drug scandals, the media decided that any such scandals involving Obama were not scandalous. Prior use of Cocaine was almost freely admitted. Obama's alleged bisexuality and extramarital dalliances with men were of limits because that would be homophobic. The allegations that the marriage to Michael was arranged through the Reverend Wright's racist church to conceal homosexuality was a story that the politically correct media refused to cover.

The Obamas are scandal free only because almost everyone decided that behaviors that would be scandalous for everyone else were not scandalous for them.


Why am I thinking that this stuff came out of the right wing junk shop, you know, the same source that insisted that Vince Foster was murdered, who continues to make hay on Benghazi inspite of that havinng been investigated multiple times by Republicans... who found nothing?

It's like you right wingers are wiping your hands with a greasy shop towel out of that junk shop, Fly. This stuff doesn't pass the smell test.

Don

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I was wondering when the muckraking would begin. I've heard it all before. There's even speculation that the girls are not his, because Obama is said to be sterile, so some guy was supposedly approached to have the kids for him and was paid to keep quiet about it. When the girls turned 18, the agreement no longer existed. The biological father is rumored to be awarded 14 million dollars by a judge. He sought 40M it is rumored. All unconfirmed allegations I don't believe one bit.

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Re: Scandal-free Obama and family
Post by Arol   » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:20 am

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Let’s not forget the one about how the B.O.M is The Knight in Shining Armor, spearheading the fight against the odious and secret band of pedophiles inhabiting the corridors of power in DC!
The bats are really flapping their wings in belfries of these rightwing nut jobs!
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Re: Scandal-free Obama and family
Post by isaac_newton   » Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:36 am

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TFLYTSNBN wrote:Give me a break.

Obama went to Washington DC as a relatively poor man who allegedly subsisted on the salary of an Illinois State Senator. He then gets a income increase to that of a US Senator which really isn't much when you consider the cost of housing in DC. The President of the US seems to have a nice salary until you factor in the fact that many expenses of living in the White House are paid by President rather than government. Obama leaves the Whitehouse and immediately starts buying homes. Among them is the estate that was the location for Magnum PI. He paid multiple millions of dollars for a house that he nuked.

His books didn't sell nearly this well.

As for sexual scandals and drug scandals, the media decided that any such scandals involving Obama were not scandalous. Prior use of Cocaine was almost freely admitted. Obama's alleged bisexuality and extramarital dalliances with men were of limits because that would be homophobic. The allegations that the marriage to Michael was arranged through the Reverend Wright's racist church to conceal homosexuality was a story that the politically correct media refused to cover.

The Obamas are scandal free only because almost everyone decided that behaviors that would be scandalous for everyone else were not scandalous for them.


that's it Fly - you show us how you should really troll!

while you have been away, we've had a few baby trollettes around - but the Trump training schools have really gone downhill - they've been so feeble - all they can do is squeak 'TDS' and 'libtards'

:D :D :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Scandal-free Obama and family
Post by BobfromSydney   » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:19 pm

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Actually Obama's not the only politician around without any scandal, the former prime minister of Australia, John Howard made it through over a decade without any hint of personal scandal as well.

I personally don't like his politics or the way he deliberately lied about "Children overboard" and was called out by the naval officer and then brazened through it with no admission of wrongdoing, however I can readily asknowledge he lived a scandal free personal life.

I think there are probably a fair number of scandal free politicians out there, but I imagine most of them are too "boring" or unremarkable that we don't readily recall them.
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