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A Clearing House of Crimes against African Americans

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Re: A Clearing House of Crimes against African Americans
Post by cthia   » Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:36 am

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ZVar wrote:How about the main thing first. Stop calling them African-American!

Maybe 3 in total are from Africa. Call them what they are. Americans. They want to be identified as a separate population, but when they are treated differently it's racism?

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Re: A Clearing House of Crimes against African Americans
Post by ZVar   » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:15 am

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cthia wrote:"We did not land on Plymouth Rock. Plymouth Rock landed on us."



ZVar wrote:How about the main thing first. Stop calling them African-American!

Maybe 3 in total are from Africa. Call them what they are. Americans. They want to be identified as a separate population, but when they are treated differently it's racism?



So? If it happened in one's grandparents, grandparents lifetime it might matter. Simple fact is we have a specific group of Americans that will cry racist, but refuse to even identify as American. Maybe if they would try and pull themselves into the now instead of crying about something that ended 150 years ago they might, as a group, gain some traction to be treated like all other Americans.
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Re: A Clearing House of Crimes against African Americans
Post by Dilandu   » Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:27 am

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ZVar wrote:How about the main thing first. Stop calling them African-American!

Maybe 3 in total are from Africa. Call them what they are. Americans. They want to be identified as a separate population, but when they are treated differently it's racism?


There was a good therm starting with "N"...

P.S. To be exact, "negr" (negro) in Russian did not have any negative meaning at all. "Chernyy" (black), on the other hands, did have mildly negative meaning.
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Re: A Clearing House of Crimes against African Americans
Post by n7axw   » Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:00 am

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ZVar wrote:How about the main thing first. Stop calling them African-American!

Maybe 3 in total are from Africa. Call them what they are. Americans. They want to be identified as a separate population, but when they are treated differently it's racism?


I wish it was as simple as you seem to be suggesting, but unfortunately it's not. Every one of those incidents listed above is racist. Their skin color is something they wear like the Jews wore the Star of David during the haulocost years. And it gets them dead. In significant ways Jim Crow has never gone away.

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Re: A Clearing House of Crimes against African Americans
Post by n7axw   » Sun Jun 14, 2020 11:07 am

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Dilandu wrote:
ZVar wrote:How about the main thing first. Stop calling them African-American!

Maybe 3 in total are from Africa. Call them what they are. Americans. They want to be identified as a separate population, but when they are treated differently it's racism?


There was a good therm starting with "N"...

P.S. To be exact, "negr" (negro) in Russian did not have any negative meaning at all. "Chernyy" (black), on the other hands, did have mildly negative meaning.


In New Testament Greek, the word is "niger". No negative connotation there either. The word is literally "black."

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Re: A Clearing House of Crimes against African Americans
Post by Dilandu   » Sun Jun 14, 2020 3:49 pm

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n7axw wrote:No negative connotation there either.

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Ah, now I recall it - "connotation". Must admit, the word completely get out of my head; I knew that it was supposed to be, but just could not recall it.

Thanks!
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Re: A Clearing House of Crimes against African Americans
Post by Annachie   » Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:06 am

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It may be simple, but it's also a pretty fundamental attitude change.

People are not usually good at those.
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Re: A Clearing House of Crimes against African Americans
Post by n7axw   » Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:40 am

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Dilandu wrote:
n7axw wrote:No negative connotation there either.

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Ah, now I recall it - "connotation". Must admit, the word completely get out of my head; I knew that it was supposed to be, but just could not recall it.

Thanks!


Don't feel too bad about it. Your English is far better than my Russian... :D

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Re: A Clearing House of Crimes against African Americans
Post by cthia   » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:52 pm

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Re: A Clearing House of Crimes against African Americans
Post by gcomeau   » Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:14 pm

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ZVar wrote:How about the main thing first. Stop calling them African-American!


Yeah, the main thing. Because clearly the root cause of racism is the specific ethnic group names we use to identify people. :roll:

Maybe 3 in total are from Africa. Call them what they are. Americans. They want to be identified as a separate population, but when they are treated differently it's racism?


Umm... yes. When you discriminate against a specific identified racial group that would indeed be racism. Kind of by definition.

So? If it happened in one's grandparents, grandparents lifetime it might matter. Simple fact is we have a specific group of Americans that will cry racist, but refuse to even identify as American.


What was the second word in that two word phrase you wanted people to stop using?

I'm pretty sure it looked a lot like "american".
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